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Jones a Decent Fit

Created by: PurpleHippo
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 26, 2022
Published: Aug. 26, 2022
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Seeing as Jones is a hot topic rn this post is mostly regarding the trade, ignore the 20 person/1 mill cap space as other things would need to change to allow this to happen.
Which team rejects?
Trades
VAN
  1. Jones, Seth ($1,500,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$80,114,167$1,250,000$2,000,000$2,385,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
#1
Vancouerrific
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Barf
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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Who tf wants Jones on their team lol, especially paying $8M AAV
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:22 p.m.
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Judd Bracket ripoff
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Imagine giving up a 1st for OEL one off season just to give up another first the next off season for Seth Jones lol
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Artman91
Who tf wants Jones on their team lol, especially paying $8M AAV


Canucks have a history of trading for bad defenseman on terrible contracts
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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I wouldn't mind Jones on a 7.5 mil AAV contract as that's closer to what he's worth but there's no way chicago is getting a 1st for him lmao
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:29 p.m.
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CHI NYI
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8 years and $76 million of a second pairing almost 30 OFD is a punishment I wouldn’t wish on anyone
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: rext7177
I wouldn't mind Jones on a 7.5 mil AAV contract as that's closer to what he's worth but there's no way chicago is getting a 1st for him lmao


Wasn't sure what to send as a return, there would be something as Jones is a good Dman but the contract makes it hard to gage.
I put a first next season as 1.5x8 years is a lot to retain, and Jones on an 8x8 becomes more worth while (though I still see him as a 7-7.5 Dman).
I don't see Chicago moving him for anything less with that retention, though it's debatable.
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:38 p.m.
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Future Norris guy
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Seth Jones wont waive his NMC for any Canadian teams.

And Kyle Davidson sure as hell isn't eating $1,500,000 x 8 years on Seth Jones contract. That's $12,000,000 in dead money over 8 seasons. Rebuilding teams don't do that.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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Judd Bracket ripoff
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Quoting: SpinyLiving
Canucks have a history of trading for bad defenseman on terrible contracts


I wouldn’t say they have a history of doing it, they’ve don it one time. That’s like saying the panthers have a history of leading the league in scoring
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:43 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Seth Jones wont waive his NMC for any Canadian teams.

And Kyle Davidson sure as hell isn't eating $1,500,000 x 8 years on Seth Jones contract. That's $12,000,000 in dead money over 8 seasons. Rebuilding teams don't do that.


NMC was assumed to be waived, though I don't know Jones preferences (if he wants certain locations/on a winning team/etc.).

Rebuilding Teams wouldn't, but this contract also heavily hurts a rebuilding team and retaining 1.5m x 8 rather than 9.5 x 8 on someone that doesn't help their current needs.

What is your assumption that's going to happen with Jones?
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.
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Should probably cut that retention in half, cant see any team retaining that much for that long.
Aug. 26, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
NMC was assumed to be waived, though I don't know Jones preferences (if he wants certain locations/on a winning team/etc.).

Rebuilding Teams wouldn't, but this contract also heavily hurts a rebuilding team and retaining 1.5m x 8 rather than 9.5 x 8 on someone that doesn't help their current needs.

What is your assumption that's going to happen with Jones?


I know at the time he was traded from Columbus to Chicago, He would only agree to waive for Chicago, Colorado and Dallas. All Canadian teams were on his no trade list he only wanted to play in the States.

If he's moved i think he goes home to Dallas but Jim Nill would need to send and expensive piece back like Jaime Benn. But if Kyle Davidson is looking at a 5 year rebuild if he were to retain $1,000,000 x 8 years on Seth Jones it might not be so bad. As he will probably only go with cheap ELC contracts anyways.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.
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Jones should stay far away from our roster. He has no business being payed that much, even with retention
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Imagine giving up a 1st for OEL one off season just to give up another first the next off season for Seth Jones lol


Helps us win Bedard
Aug. 26, 2022 at 3:52 p.m.
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not taking that garbage contract and Jones is a terrible fit for Hughes
 
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