A Realistic Patrick Kane Trade

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Created by: nolannichol

Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 28, 2022

Published: Aug. 28, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Please ignore the cap space, a third team would need to be involved in order to make this deal work, however, I don't believe CapFriendly has an option to make a three-way trade. Ideally, Chicago would retain 50% ($5,250,000) before shipping Kane off to another team who would then retain 50% of that already retained cap ($2,625,000). Leafs would likely need to give this third team a first or second-round pick and possibly a prospect. Anyways, after all this, Kane's cap hit for the Leafs would be just $2,625,000, only owing Kane 25% of that original $10,500,000 contract.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Sandin, Rasmus		1	$1,500,000

Trades

TOR

Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)

Additional Details:

I've seen lots of people saying Nylander would need to go the other way. If you throw Nylander in the deal + additional assets then what's the point in even making the deal? Trading a 25-year-old star player for a 33-year-old veteran with one year left on his deal.

CHI

Additional Details:

Kerfoot is a "cap dump" I guess, however, he's a great player and is only owed $750k in real cash this season. He would fetch a nice return for the Hawks at the deadline. It's clear that in a trade for Kane the Hawks want futures. It'd be hard to not want to get your hands on a prospect like Nick Robertson. If it weren't for bad luck with injuries, while also playing for one of the deepest forward groups in the league, he'd already be in the NHL. The first-round pick would fetch Chicago another high-end prospect and Alex Steeves is a good prospect too.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$82,500,000	$77,855,616	$212,500	$0	$4,644,384

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $950,000$950,000 LW UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C UFA - 2	Kane, Patrick -$2,625,000-$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 1
Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW UFA - 3
Engvall, Pierre $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000$900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Gaudette, Adam $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
		Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Sandin, Rasmus $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 2	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Marner, M.		Tavares, J.		Kane, P.
	Rielly, M.		Matthews, A.

Power Play 2
Nylander, W.		Gaudette, A.		Bunting, M.
	Sandin, R.		Järnkrok, C.

Penalty Kill 1
	Kämpf, D.	Marner, M.
	Muzzin, J.	Brodie, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Järnkrok, C.	Engvall, P.
	Rielly, M.	Holl, J.

Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

Seiders on the Storm

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Hawks will get better prospects in a Kane (retained) trade.

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.

NickC1988

Chicago

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Hawks will get better prospects in a Kane (retained) trade.

Yes, and if there's an extension in place, it'll be even more.

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:36 p.m.

Theozler

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I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.

IconicHawk

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Quoting: Theozler

I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

That’s only if there’s an extension on place if not we can find better prospects then Robertson who is so fragile he shatters when a microscopic spec grazes him

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: NickC1988

Yes, and if there's an extension in place, it'll be even more.

Definitely

Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: Theozler

I’m in the fence. I could see knies being the ask over Robertson

Knies and Niemela. I still think Patty Kane ends up a Ranger because I want to see him playing with Breadman again. 😁

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.

Scooter81

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No possible. They would be over the cap limit.

Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.

exo2769

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I don't think Steeves is the prospect the Hawks are looking for. The Hawks have pretty close ties to the UND program including (2) current prospects and off the top of my head 5+ others like Hino, Gilbert, Cam Morrison, Johns etc... when Steeves left there wasn't any broad discussion about the Hawks (nor Steeves) having any interest.

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.

tsyls

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Yeah it would probably take Knies and Niemela to even get the conversation started.

Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.

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JAKE6

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Quoting: tsyls

Yeah it would probably take Knies and Niemela to even get the conversation started.

so our 2 top prospects for 1 year of kane? no thx

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Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.

#11

CoachCoach

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CF does allow three way trades under the “trade machine” tab in the top right.

Also if you look up arm chair GMs by team, click Toronto and you can see numerous different scenarios in which this exact idea is discussed.

As of now I’ve seen everything from: Kane to Toronto for Muzzin and Kerfoot…. All the way to Kane to Toronto for Knies, Sandin, Robertson, Nylander, Holl, and a first round pick.

My personal favorite was Kane at 25% to Toronto with a ARI 2023 2nd for Kerfoot, Holl, and TOR 2023 1st.

Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.

#12

GenXHockey

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Quoting: IconicHawk

That’s only if there’s an extension on place if not we can find better prospects then Robertson who is so fragile he shatters when a microscopic spec grazes him

This tells me you didn't see either of his injuries.

Aug. 28, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.

#13

tsyls

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Quoting: jake4leafs

so our 2 top prospects for 1 year of kane? no thx

That’s okay, other teams will pay. It’s the price you pay to make a push in the playoffs. Leafs literally spent a 1st round pick on Nick Foligno 🤣

Look at Tampa, spent 2 1sts on Hagel. He had some term so different story.

But to win in the playoffs, most teams have to add, you need to pay the price for quality. If you don’t want to pay the price for kane, that’s alright, I’m sure another team will.

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Aug. 29, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.

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NickC1988

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Quoting: MoreHitzSeider

Knies and Niemela. I still think Patty Kane ends up a Ranger because I want to see him playing with Breadman again. 😁

I agree, I think Rangers see the East is pretty much wide open. I think Tampa took a significant step back, Toronto didn't get better, and Florida lost A LOT of depth both up front and on D (Specifically LD). Who is going to compete against them? They got a lot of important experience and kept mostly everyone. They'd have two 1st lines if they acquire Kane.

Aug. 30, 2022 at 8:53 p.m.

#15

nolannichol

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