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could something like this work

Created by: Imagine874859
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 30, 2022
Published: Aug. 30, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Dvorak, Christian ($350,000 retained)
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Apparantly they'd be lucky to get a 4th for Dvorak. With this retention his value is equal to Dumo. Dumo is worth around a 3rd or 2nd.
MTL
  1. Dumoulin, Brian
2.
PIT
  1. 2024 7th round pick (ARI)
Anywhere
ARI
  1. McGinn, Brock
Buyouts
  • Jack Johnson: $1,916,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$82,500,000$82,055,175$0$400,000$444,825
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Rakell, Rickard
$5,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 6
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Dvorak, Christian
$4,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Malkin, Evgeni
$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Rust, Bryan
$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Heinen, Danton
$1,000,000
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UFA - 1
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Carter, Jeff
$3,125,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Zucker, Jason
$5,500,000
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NTC
UFA - 1
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O'Connor, Drew
$750,000
LW
RFA - 1
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Blueger, Teddy
$2,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,200,000
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UFA - 2
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Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$825,000
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Letang, Kris
$6,100,000
RD
NMC
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Jarry, Tristan
$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175
LD
UFA - 3
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Petry, Jeff
$6,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
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DeSmith, Casey
$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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Smith, Ty
$863,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Rutta, Jan
$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Poehling, Ryan
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Archibald, Josh
$900,000
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UFA - 1
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Ruhwedel, Chad
$800,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Friedman, Mark
$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 30 at 9:28 a.m.
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Don't know where you heard about Dvorak being worth a 4th. Imagine he gets a 1st or at least a couple 2nds.
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Why does MTL need/want /Dumoulin though?
Aug. 30 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Don't know where you heard about Dvorak being worth a 4th. Imagine he gets a 1st or at least a couple 2nds.


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Aug. 30 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Why does MTL need/want /Dumoulin though?


Their defense took a hit for sure. Weber, Romanov, and Petry all gone
Aug. 30 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Don't know where you heard about Dvorak being worth a 4th. Imagine he gets a 1st or at least a couple 2nds.


Dvorak is NOT worth a 1st. Not be any stretch. MTL overpaid for him initially. Dvorak is probably worth a 2nd and mid-level prospect at the most. That said, Dumo play most of last season with an injured foot. He will most definitely have a bounce back year and is a legit first pairing dman. The main issue here is not his value. The main issue is MTL has no need for someone like Dumo at present time given their situation.
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Aug. 30 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Imagine874859
Their defense took a hit for sure. Weber, Romanov, and Petry all gone


Yeah, but he's a rental. If Dumo gets moved, which I think is highly unlikely, it will likely be to a playoff-bound team.
Aug. 30 at 9:34 a.m.
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If they get can only get a 4th in the current market, they'll keep it instead of trading at a loss until teams have cap space.

MTL have a lot of NHL-ready LD prospects;Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj. One of them will earn the 3LD spot behind Edmundson and Matheson.
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Aug. 30 at 9:35 a.m.
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If they get can only get a 4th in the current market, they'll keep it instead of trading at a loss until teams have cap space.

MTL have a lot of NHL-ready LD prospects;Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj. One of them will earn the 3LD spot behind Edmundson and Matheson.


Cant Edmundson play the right side too?
Aug. 30 at 9:55 a.m.
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The value was from a delusional NHL exec and was immediately refuted by another GM who had actual interest and conversations with Hughes about Dvorak. He even said “If he is playing a 200-foot game then he can be really effective and I think rotate between the second or third slot up the middle,” the source said. “I hope your other source is right though and we don’t have to give up more than a third for him.” which indicates just how ridiculous the other GM was being. Knowing how things work in the NHL the first GM was probably from Toronto, Ottawa, Carolina or Boston trying to run down the Habs players values due to their rivalries. Montreal is not selling Dvorak for a 3rd or 4th. Habs should be able to get a late 1st + B or C level prospect min for him, especially if we wait until the deadline. His cap hit is reasonable and his term is not a hindrance. His value is slightly less than what the Habs paid for him. He definitely has bounceback candidate written all over him as he is still just entering his prime at 26.
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Aug. 30 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Imagine874859
Cant Edmundson play the right side too?


Yes he can and so can Guhle and Harris
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Aug. 30 at 9:57 a.m.
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Puck empire on insta.


So your willing to listen to jimmy murphy?
Aug. 30 at 10:08 a.m.
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So your willing to listen to jimmy murphy?


It was an NHL exec who said the Habs would be lucky to get a 3rd but another NHL GM who had actually interest in acquiring Dvorak refuted it immediately and went as far as saying that he hope the other Exec was right and he could get Dvo for a 3rd or 4th. This is a classic case of on exec trying to rum down a rival players value while another one says he was an idiot without actually saying it.
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Aug. 30 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
It was an NHL exec who said the Habs would be lucky to get a 3rd but another NHL GM who had actually interest in acquiring Dvorak refuted it immediately and went as far as saying that he hope the other Exec was right and he could get Dvo for a 3rd or 4th. This is a classic case of on exec trying to rum down a rival players value while another one says he was an idiot without actually saying it.


Which was a jimmy murphy article from last week who is a known hack
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Aug. 30 at 10:22 a.m.
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Hard no from MTL. Not even in the ballpark on that Dvo trade.
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Aug. 30 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Imagine874859
Puck empire on insta.


It was from a dubious source (MHN) which cited one unnamed source. MHN cited two other unnamed sources saying that his valuable is more than that with a chance to be worth much more than that.

I wouldn't base my expectations off of any of that. Montreal's much better off keeping Dvorak.
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Aug. 30 at 11:35 a.m.
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I love how one clickbait article came out and now dvorak is worth a 4th with retention, habs ain't trading him for less then what they paid
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Aug. 30 at 12:02 p.m.
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Habs definitely decline
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Aug. 30 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Don't know where you heard about Dvorak being worth a 4th. Imagine he gets a 1st or at least a couple 2nds.


montreal are lucky to get a third for him
Aug. 30 at 4:04 p.m.
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montreal are lucky to get a third for him


lmfao yea ok there bud, smoke another one.
 
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