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Potential Miller spots

Created by: Warpbox
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 30, 2022
Published: Aug. 30, 2022
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Interested to hear peoples thoughts. Do you think these teams could trade for Miller? Do you think another team might? Do you think these packages are fair?
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Peeke, Andrew
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
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First is top 5 protected
CBJ
  1. Miller, J.T. ($2,625,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Doubt Columbus fans want Miller but Columbus really is a wild card after Gaudreau. Could see them going after Miller as a centre for Gaudreau and Laine well mentoring the young guys
2.
VAN
  1. Eller, Lars
  2. Iorio, Vincent
  3. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
WSH
    JT Miller.

    This is more likely to me. This is one of the last few years Washington can go for it and Miller would be a great add. Vancouver gets a big, defensive, shutdown RD prospect in Iorio who is from here along with a first in a stacked draft class and Ellet who can be flipped for a pick.
    3.
    VAN
    1. Kerfoot, Alexander
    2. Niemelä, Topi
    3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
    TOR
    1. Schenn, Luke
    Additional Details:
    JT Miller (50%)

    Toronto is going to have to win soon. Miller stacks the second line and adds a physicality that the leafs have lacked. Vancouver gets a great RD prospect in Niemela, a hometown kid who can fill in at 3 C in Kerfoot, and a first in a stacked draft class.
    4.
    VAN
    1. Lysell, Fabian
    2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
    BOS
      JT Miller (50%) Vancouver can also take a one year cap dump. (Miller has extension)

      This one I’m less sure about. Miller would be a great Bruin and likely would extend there. Not sure if Bruins would give up Lysell but this could be the current cores last chance at a cup and then Miller can take up 1 C role in the future for them. Not entirely sure though
      5.
      VAN
      1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
      2. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
      COL
        JT Miller (50%)

        Genuinely not Familiar with Colorados prospect system, but assume the 2024 first is switched out with an equal prospect. Vancouver can also take Girard + something but not sure if Colorado would want to do that
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        $6,650,000$6,650,000
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        $4,750,000$4,750,000
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        UFA - 4
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        $4,125,000$4,125,000
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        UFA - 1
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        $4,950,000$4,950,000
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        UFA - 2
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        $2,650,000$2,650,000
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        UFA - 2
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        UFA - 1
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        UFA - 3
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        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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        RFA - 2
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        $750,000$750,000
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        UFA - 1
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        $894,167$894,167
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        RFA - 4
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        $3,500,000$3,500,000
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        UFA - 1
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        $2,415,000$2,415,000
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        UFA - 1
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        $7,850,000$7,850,000
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        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $6,000,000$6,000,000
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        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
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        $5,000,000$5,000,000
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        UFA - 4
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        $7,260,000$7,260,000
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        UFA - 5
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        UFA - 2
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        $1,500,000$1,500,000
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        UFA - 1
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        $750,000$750,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
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        $787,500$787,500
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        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Washington Capitals
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        RFA - 4
        Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
        $856,667$856,667
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        RFA - 3
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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        RFA - 1
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
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        Lysell is not on the table
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: ronan00
        Lysell is not on the table


        I figured he wouldn’t be, but wasn’t entirely sure. If the Bruins were to trade for Miller, what do you think the package would be?
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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        These all seem fairly realistic to me. I think WSH is a really good fit with Backstrom’s injury and VAN could retain on Miller in that deal too to help make it happen. If Backstrom comes back well after surgery then Miller would likely be a rental, or they could extend Miller if Backstrom had to LTIR retire. Either way they’re a team that should go for it while Ovi’s still a monster.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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        Oops! I forgot Dobson, Wahlstrom, and a first! My bad. I forgot the most realistic one!
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
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        I think if Miller had more than a year, Columbus would do it. But that's steep for a one year rental, and they can't risk resigning him to a long deal that becomes an albatross in a couple of years as the kids mature.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
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        Personally, I would offer Girard, a choice of Kaut (who desperately needs time in the NHL) or Beaucage or some other prospect like them, along with a 1st and another pick.

        Girard is going to have to leave to make room for Byram. EJ's contract can only really supply the space to re-sign MacKinnon.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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        GMCM/Sakic have made it clear they're not moving Girard for a rental or an overpayed guy at the end of their prime. Miller is going to overpayed(for a 2C, of which he would be on the Avs) and is a rental.
        I can see if it's before American thanksgiving going with Olausson/Behrens and a 1st but there isn't the same panic there was when they went after and overpayed for Kuemper. Newhook with talent will be a solid 2c with around 50-60 points and grow from there.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:13 p.m.
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        Quoting: Warpbox
        Oops! I forgot Dobson, Wahlstrom, and a first! My bad. I forgot the most realistic one!


        For Miller, Demko, Hughes and Boeser right?
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:16 p.m.
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        Quoting: FoxYou727
        For Miller, Demko, Hughes and Boeser right?


        *OEL, Poolman, and Dickinson
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:17 p.m.
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        Quoting: Nqutilus
        Personally, I would offer Girard, a choice of Kaut (who desperately needs time in the NHL) or Beaucage or some other prospect like them, along with a 1st and another pick.

        Girard is going to have to leave to make room for Byram. EJ's contract can only really supply the space to re-sign MacKinnon.


        girard is not available for a rental, this is just silly
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:20 p.m.
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        Quoting: coga16
        girard is not available for a rental, this is just silly


        He's going to need to be moved at some point unless we want to have no offensive depth. I'd rather he be moved to aid in getting a first line forward to help complement Nuke and Lehky's game. And this is just my take, Sakic probably won't do it, sure, but it's fun to theorize.
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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        Caps are definitely in for that one
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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        Quoting: krakowitz
        Caps are definitely in for that one

        Is it too little? I feel like it’s around fair.
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.
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        Quoting: Nqutilus
        He's going to need to be moved at some point unless we want to have no offensive depth. I'd rather he be moved to aid in getting a first line forward to help complement Nuke and Lehky's game. And this is just my take, Sakic probably won't do it, sure, but it's fun to theorize.


        you dont give him away for a rental, that is just poor asset management
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:40 p.m.
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        NYR give you a 5th just for leaving us out of this. Thank you 😉
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
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        Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
        NYR give you a 5th just for leaving us out of this. Thank you 😉


        Oh yeah! The rangers! I totally forgot. What was it, Schneider, Kakko, and Lafreniere? Something like that…
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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        Quoting: MeetYourMakar
        GMCM/Sakic have made it clear they're not moving Girard for a rental or an overpayed guy at the end of their prime. Miller is going to overpayed(for a 2C, of which he would be on the Avs) and is a rental.
        I can see if it's before American thanksgiving going with Olausson/Behrens and a 1st but there isn't the same panic there was when they went after and overpayed for Kuemper. Newhook with talent will be a solid 2c with around 50-60 points and grow from there.

        Why do you always treat Miller like a grizzled old veteran? He is 29 years old and will be for the whole season. He isn't at the end of his prime
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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        Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
        NYR give you a 5th just for leaving us out of this. Thank you 😉


        I'm throwing in a 4th. Plus Jake Gardiner.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:43 p.m.
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        Quoting: Warpbox
        I figured he wouldn’t be, but wasn’t entirely sure. If the Bruins were to trade for Miller, what do you think the package would be?


        I just don't think these two teams match-up well for a Miller trade unless either Krejci or Bergeron get injured for the season. It seems like Vancouver needs RD or RW and that's two position Boston doesn't have a lot of depth at.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:44 p.m.
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        Quoting: ON3M4N
        I just don't think these two teams match-up well for a Miller trade unless either Krejci or Bergeron get injured for the season. It seems like Vancouver needs RD or RW and that's two position Boston doesn't have a lot of depth at.


        They really don’t need RW. They have Boeser and Garland with Hoglander and Mikheyev both capable of the right side. I imagine a VAN BOS trade would be Miller for futures
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.
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        Quoting: InRodWeTrust
        I'm throwing in a 4th. Plus Jake Gardiner.


        But that's negative value?!
        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: Warpbox
        Is it too little? I feel like it’s around fair.


        I think basing it off of the Debrincat trade, this is pretty fair. I think from the perspective of the Caps it makes all the sense in the world to do while Backstrom is out
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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        I don't think any team makes that trade. Now come closer to TDL, a team feels they are closer to the Cup Finals someone might bite, but for some teams the ask is still too high.
        And teams want to know what they are getting......the 65 point Miller....throughout his career or the last years 100 point Miller.
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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        Quoting: krakowitz
        I think basing it off of the Debrincat trade, this is pretty fair. I think from the perspective of the Caps it makes all the sense in the world to do while Backstrom is out


        I think with proper development Iorio could be the D man for Hughes in 3-5 years. Big, shutdown (from what I’ve read) and is from here. Could be a good fit. Ellet at 50% might even be able to fetch a first if he has a good year in VAN and someone overpays
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        Aug. 30, 2022 at 6:50 p.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        I don't think any team makes that trade. Now come closer to TDL, a team feels they are closer to the Cup Finals someone might bite, but for some teams the ask is still too high.
        And teams want to know what they are getting......the 65 point Miller....throughout his career or the last years 100 point Miller.

        He’s been PPG for the past 3 years. I think that’s a fair expectation. I don’t think any of these packages are particularly unfair, saying as he’s probably one of the best players on the market in a long time
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