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Created by: Bruinadian67
Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2022
Published: Aug. 31, 2022
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Trades
BOS
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (BOS)
ANA
  1. Smith, Craig
  2. 2023 7th round pick (LAK)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$77,337,917$0$4,650,000$5,162,083

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
G
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW
RFA - 3

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Aug. 31, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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A rebuilding team like Anaheim expending a high second-round draft pick on a 33-year-old rental third liner?

I don't think so.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 4:57 p.m.
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paying for your cap dump? not all that polarizing for Anaheim
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 5:17 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 31, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
I think you got the picks reversed there bud.

If you need to clear cap space we will take Zacha or DeBrusk off you hands, probably would even pay for them too.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Imagine thinking a guy whose played a 40pt pace over the last 3 years and a $3.1 million cap hit is a cap dump. I swear most people on this site just spew their opinion without doing an research.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 5:58 p.m.
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BOS shouldn't make this trade, it just makes their bot6 weaker. If you want to make cap space just send Foligno to the minors and move Nosek
Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
paying for your cap dump? not all that polarizing for Anaheim


Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I think you got the picks reversed there bud.

If you need to clear cap space we will take Zacha or DeBrusk off you hands, probably would even pay for them too.


While acquiring Smith makes absolutely no sense for Anaheim, Smith is about as far from a cap dump as it gets.
Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.
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While acquiring Smith makes absolutely no sense for Anaheim, Smith is about as far from a cap dump as it gets.


what is it called when a player in only traded for cap purposes?
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:11 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Imagine thinking a guy whose played a 40pt pace over the last 3 years and a $3.1 million cap hit is a cap dump. I swear most people on this site just spew their opinion without doing an research.


You say that like 1 year of 40 pts is going to be worth a 2nd round pick to a rebuilding team that is going to miss the playoffs with or without him. He doesn't fit our rebuild timeline, we have plenty of young middle six players to give ice time too, and we wouldn't be resigning him. He is way more valuable on Boston's roster than he is on Anaheim's.

Now what was that about not doing any research?
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
what is it called when a player in only traded for cap purposes?


A “cap dump,” is player with a contract that is negative value.

Valuable players are traded to make cap room all the time.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Imagine thinking a guy whose played a 40pt pace over the last 3 years and a $3.1 million cap hit is a cap dump. I swear most people on this site just spew their opinion without doing an research.


Does it make sense for Anaheim to acquire a 33 year old winger at the expense of a valuable pick when they are in a rebuild?
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
You say that like 1 year of 40 pts is going to be worth a 2nd round pick to a rebuilding team that is going to miss the playoffs with or without him. He doesn't fit our rebuild timeline, we have plenty of young middle six players to give ice time too, and we wouldn't be resigning him. He is way more valuable on Boston's roster than he is on Anaheim's.

Now what was that about not doing any research?

Craig smith has played at a 22 goal, 43 pace over the last five seasons with a very responsible, gritty two way game. At 3.1M, that’s just not anywhere near a negative value asset. I don’t think he would get a 2nd in this particular draft, but the narrative that he’s somehow a cap dump all comes from some reporter known for being correct roughly 0% of the time theorizing that the Bruins want to move him.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Craig smith has played at a 22 goal, 43 pace over the last five seasons with a very responsible, gritty two way game. At 3.1M, that’s just not anywhere near a negative value asset. I don’t think he would get a 2nd in this particular draft, but the narrative that he’s somehow a cap dump all comes from some reporter known for being correct roughly 0% of the time theorizing that the Bruins want to move him.


I honestly have no idea which reporter you were referring to, I don't tend to follow much hockey news outside of THG. I was merely taking a swipe back at ON3M4N for calling us Ducks fans uninformed on the subject when he was displaying the same lack or research he is accusing us of. As good of a player as Smith may be, he would still have negative value to the Ducks because he is taking up a roster spot from a kid we NEED to develop. His 20+ goals and 40+ points for one season do nothing to help our rebuild along. There are probably 24+ other teams in the league who would happily pay you for him, but we are not amongst that group. Any positive value he would hold to my team is whatever we would be able to flip him for at the deadline, and there are risks involved with us for that, such as his numbers declining in Anaheim or him getting hurt before we can trade him.

We get bombarded over here in ANA by ACGMs who see our cap space as free to use and not understanding, or caring that rebuilding teams don't spend draft capital on aging rentals, no matter how good they are. Our assumption at this point is anyone over the age of 30 on an expiring deal worth multiple millions of dollars is coming to us because they are cap dump, whether they are worth their pay or not.
Aug. 31, 2022 at 7:08 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
You say that like 1 year of 40 pts is going to be worth a 2nd round pick to a rebuilding team that is going to miss the playoffs with or without him. He doesn't fit our rebuild timeline, we have plenty of young middle six players to give ice time too, and we wouldn't be resigning him. He is way more valuable on Boston's roster than he is on Anaheim's.

Now what was that about not doing any research?


I said he's played at a 40pt pace over the last 3yrs lol. Just because he doesn't fit your teams timeline doesn't mean he's a cap, it's just not the right fit.
Aug. 31, 2022 at 7:14 p.m.
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Does it make sense for Anaheim to acquire a 33 year old winger at the expense of a valuable pick when they are in a rebuild?


Likely not, but that's doesn't make him a cap dump. It just means ANH isn't the right fit if Boston decided to trade Smith.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I honestly have no idea which reporter you were referring to, I don't tend to follow much hockey news outside of THG. I was merely taking a swipe back at ON3M4N for calling us Ducks fans uninformed on the subject when he was displaying the same lack or research he is accusing us of. As good of a player as Smith may be, he would still have negative value to the Ducks because he is taking up a roster spot from a kid we NEED to develop. His 20+ goals and 40+ points for one season do nothing to help our rebuild along. There are probably 24+ other teams in the league who would happily pay you for him, but we are not amongst that group. Any positive value he would hold to my team is whatever we would be able to flip him for at the deadline, and there are risks involved with us for that, such as his numbers declining in Anaheim or him getting hurt before we can trade him.

We get bombarded over here in ANA by ACGMs who see our cap space as free to use and not understanding, or caring that rebuilding teams don't spend draft capital on aging rentals, no matter how good they are. Our assumption at this point is anyone over the age of 30 on an expiring deal worth multiple millions of dollars is coming to us because they are cap dump, whether they are worth their pay or not.


Again, i said right off the bat that it doesn’t make sense for the ducks. Calling him a cap dump is pretty uninformed.
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Aug. 31, 2022 at 8:52 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
paying for your cap dump? not all that polarizing for Anaheim

If you look up polarizing, you’ll see your negative comment proved my title!
Aug. 31, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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Again, i said right off the bat that it doesn’t make sense for the ducks. Calling him a cap dump is pretty uninformed.

It only ‘doesn’t make sense’ to Anaheim fans. When their rebuild is complete in 2 years, he’ll be done that contract. I only chose them because they weren’t ‘swimming’ in right wingers.
Aug. 31, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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It only ‘doesn’t make sense’ to Anaheim fans. When their rebuild is complete in 2 years, he’ll be done that contract. I only chose them because they weren’t ‘swimming’ in right wingers.


I’m not an anaheim fan, and it doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t see any argument for it making sense. It’s a bad trade concept in terms of the team you selected to move craig smith too. What they’re saying is crazy as well.
Sep. 1, 2022 at 9:59 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
paying for your cap dump? not all that polarizing for Anaheim


The trade may not work for Anaheim, but Craig Smith isnt a cap dump. I feel like every player over 30 now is just considered wrongly as a cap dump. 3.1mil 1 year left for a guy who had 16 goals last year (and thats a down year) come on man.

Hes probably worth a 3rd.
 
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