This is the best way to make sure more get made

LOL but its Toronto, the league is built around them. Why wouldnt you want to donate a young talented Right handed D man for practically nothing?

Rasmus Sandin is the second coming of Lidstrom didnt you know that

"Don't post Sandin for Lundkvist trades!!"

Posts Sandin for Lundkvist trade.

Makes sense.

I dont think the idea of the swap is particularly bad, though it probably won't happen end of the day. He's an upgrade on both Hajak and Jones. Plus Jones can be sent down without needing to pass waivers.

The overall value of the 2 players is pretty close too. I also doubt Sandin gets 2M, IMO he's at most earned 1.5M

This is almost like asking for more of them lol.

all things considered, is Sandin really an upgrade over Jones?

Idk if he is or not but gaining a surplus in LD is better than trading Lundkvist for pennies on the dollar. There might be a better trade out their for the NYR but there's nothing wrong with Leaf fans suggesting a Sandin trade for Lundkvist, because Sandin could be affordable, that would be Drury's job to figure out. If Sandin is given a spot on the d-end it's not farfetched that he would only take something like 1.5-1.8m.

Was just doing that so leafs fans saw their logo and also to show why the cap doesnt work

Sandin is the same age, he's a left hand D but he has much more NHL experience, he's more established than Lundkvist, so just being a RHD isn't going to make him the more valuable player. Lundkvist was only taken one spot ahead in the draft, so it's not like he's a top 10 RHD prospect.

Yeah, I sympathize, but multiply that by 1,000 times and imagine how we Kings fans feel about the atrocious Muzzin-to-Los-Angeles zombie. One was posted just today!

Well A. yes it does, Right-handed D are known to be one of the most valuable commodities in the league and this has been established with precedent and B. just because theyre the same age just more established doesnt mean hes more developed or more talented and it also doesn't mean it's a fair swap if the rangers have 0 need for a dman, kinda the reason why Lundkvist is getting moved to start with. LD is the most over saturated position in the league, theyre not worth that much

Two million??? 😵‍💫

Yes

Almost entirely

based on what?

So you don't like these trade posts, but you purposely sought out Leafs fans to see a post you don't want people posting?

Makes more sense.

Not trying to be rude but if being a RHD always means being valuable, then how about Holl+Sandin for Dahlin, should balance out, no? Sandin and Dahlin are the same age, Holl's righthandedness makes up for Dahlin's edge in talent. Or How about Dahlin for Liljegren to just simplify things?

It's true that being more established doesn't mean more talented (I'm not going to pretend to know which is the more talented player) but it could suggest that he's more developed (unless the reason why Lundkvist is less established is injuries-Sandin missed almost the entire 2020-21 season to injury but he still has 63 more games played, or lack of being presented with an opportunity that he earned aka mismanagement). Regardless if this is a fair swap or more than fair swap, or less than equal it's still a good haul for NYR who may get lowballed anyways.

The reason for the trade is a request from Lundkvist due to not thinking he has a good playing opportunity (which just means an excess of RD), not because NYR don't need defense, he's waiver exempt so he can just play in the minors for all they care if he's not good enough. Sandin may welcome a move because he has the same worries, and as far as I can tell there is a spot for Sandin in the line up now, the only reason the OP was suggesting that this wouldn't work is because he thinks NYR can't afford him, which isn't necessarily true.

Performance, potential, wdym?

Honestly seems like it makes sense for both sides. Rangers defense looks sick here and Toronto gets a high upside RHD on ELC to platoon with/replace Holl.

It doesn't make sense because Sandin is better than Lundkvist.

how does the cap not work, you are sitting with 2 scratches. send jones down since he doesnt need waivers and sandin wont get that much.

Holl isnt comparable to Dahlin in the slightest, so no that doesnt make sense. The context of the argument is that Sandin and Lundkvist are equals. Dahlin is far superior to Holl. So youre entire argument is null and void. But even then youre not addressing the fact that the Rangers also dont need him, which is a whole separate layer on its own, there are 7 dmen on NYR's roster right now and Sandin doesnt supplant one of them

you make the statement that Sandin is "almost entirely" an upgrade over Jones.
i asked how, which normally means someone is looking for some quantification of the statement.

that is what i mean....

you aren't being serious, are you?