Honestly, I'm with you as well; I have no clue how much Kane will go for. I also have a tough time with that because it's likely that Chicago will need to retain some cap in any trade so that might cost extra

I wouldn't really worry about Kane mock trades until it comes out which teams he would even be willing to waive for, Toronto could be but they might not, the return is going to depend on how many other teams are in play, and also the amount of accrued cap the team has by around the deadline. I don't think Kane will move until after the all-star break, and most likely sometime in March.



A 1st+a good prospect+a roster player for cap reasons like Kerfoot+Roberstson+ a 1st is most likely the minimum return that he brings in. I also don't think it's a given that Chi retains 50%, might only be like 33% (depending on which contenders they could trade him to), and for the full 50% that would require an asset perhaps.

High end prospect (Knies/Niemela) plus a first for value

cap comparable (Holl/Kerfoot) plus 2nd or 3rd to take those contracts

Prospect or pick(s) for the retention

IMO this is a pretty fair comparison

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The Flyers also retained 50% of his salary

Theres less than 0% chance of Chicago even dignifying that offer with a response. Toronto has nothing to offer. The prospect pool is depleted and their only valuable NHLers arent players they can trade

You also cant retain 75% and No team is doing it that cheap

you can retain 75% one team retains 50 and another team retains 50 and then you end up with the contract being 75% trained

Yes, but one team doesnt retain 75%, which is how the above reads

Another Leaf obsessed fan in Buffalo 😅. Don’t blame us b/c your franchise has been a tire fire past decade; maybe you crawl out the basement this year . Leafs have top half prospect pool (with lots of valuable if not superstar pieces) which is impressive given how few top round picks we’ve made in past 5 years.
Not saying there is a deal both sides could agree to, but Leafs Would be an ideal spot for Patty Kane to go to.

Leafs aren't paying to take good players. Get that thought out of your mind.

In any Kane trade hawks will take back expiring cap and give retention for free. No team with thoughts of Kane has 10.5m in cap space. They don't have 5m either.

The prospect pool is no where near depleted. Robertson, knies, hitvonen and niemela are all very good prospects teams have been trying to pry free. Amirov is now back to hockey as well.

Yes you can have 75% retained and a 3rd for 2.125m retention seems about right in the current climate. It was much cheaper last season.

Obsessed? The Leafs have 1 2nd pair d prospects and a 3rd liner they love to over hype and the rest are duds just like the 2010s Leafs. Once Matthews walks TML is toast for another decade, so enjoy the next 2 1st rounds while you can.

50 and 50 is not one 75% retention, its a total of 75% but Arizona is not retaining 75% as he typed it. And it will cost more than a 3rd but i doubt we'll even see a move like that.

My bad, I forgot to check the Shiball18 nhl prospect rankings . Do some homework - Leaf’s have good prospect pool, not great; more than enough to trade for Patty Kane. You’ll learn (maybe) that it’s harder to draft blue chip prospects when you make the playoffs year after year. Your team has been a tire fire for a decade; the only good thing is that over those years you’ve racked up top picks and things are (finally) looking ‘not completely terrible’. Leafs are still way better; don’t worry about Matthews - why would he leave a top team, best organization, league’s most popular team and centre of the hockey universe

There is a 0% chance leafs go after Kane. I agree on that. Everything else you stated is wrong. Also a correction from what I said as well. It would be 2.625m of retention. Which only has a real price tag of 725k. Seems like the perfect type of move for the Yotes. What exactly are you basing your assumption on a 3rd not being enough?

Leafs aren’t paying to take good players? Do you mean they aren’t paying to trade players? If that’s what you tried implying, than by your own logic Holl and Kerfoot don’t get traded to get you under cap this summer.

If you are think that CHI is bringing back 10 million in contract money or not asking teams to pay for them retaining 2-5 million you are living in a bubble.

6 mill cost a 1st

I meant Leafs aren't paying other teams to take good players, on good contracts. Leafs are already under the cap. I doubt they do much more. If they do decide to sign Sandin and move someone they won't be paying.

No retention in that trade. I see where you are trying to go but it just isn't comparable.

Kerfoot is a good player as a middle 6 winger at 3.5. Holl making 2 million isn’t a great contract. It’s not a lot of money, but there are better options out there.

Did I miss a move made? Last I checked you were nearly 1.5 over and still haven’t signed Sandin. If I did miss a move then my mistake on the cap compliance issue.

Right the retention was just taking the contract. 6 mill costs a 1st. 3 mill has to cost a 2nd

2.65m is about a 3rd. Historically it has been a 4th or 5th.

Everyone has seemed to have missed the fact that leafs started last season with a 20 man roster. I see no reason why they wouldn't this season. All signs point to their off season being done.

So who gets buried, Holl sent down to the AHL? Like I said I don’t know what move happened that freed up 1.5 million.

I guess Joey Anderson and Gaudette up front being sent down gets the 1.5M as well?

No moves, Holl can be done n the roster. The 1.5m clifford and Simmonds on the active roster. Did ram's even have to be those two. Move any two contracts down and leafs are under the cap.

I had just edited my previous post as you posted. The extra 2 forwards could get sent which makes sense. Still doesn’t leave much wiggle room.