I think you will need to pay more to dump Tyson. Flames paid a 1st rd and Monahan to get rid of him. I would see a 2nd rd pick going the Habs way and no 7th going to Oilers

Montreal isn't going to take on Barrie's contract without sending a Hoffman or Armia the other way. There are far cheaper ways to get a RD.

I can't see Subban getting that much money or term. If you gave him a more reasonable contract you could keep Foegele.

I'm also not a fan of moving Barrie, especially if it's going to cost assets. In the past 2 seasons he has scored 129, 15-74-89, good for 10th in the league and an 82 game average of 57 points. His on-ice goal differential at 5v5 in that span was 108-95 (+13), and in the playoffs he posted 16-9 goals. There's no urgency to get rid of him, and paying to move him is ridiculous.

Why would Anaheim be interested in two years of a 26-year-old third liner when we have young prospects to develop? Especially left-handed ones.

I don't think the Oilers can get under cap by just trading Foegele. Even Foegele and Ryan doesn't get them under cap. And I don't think they'll do Foegele and one of Puljujarvi or Yamamoto. So then it has to be Barrie.

Barrie led the NHL D in scoring in 2020-21, and scored 41 pts last season. Montreal had one of the worst PPs in the NHL last season. They also had one of the lowest scoring D corps. And they've lost Petry since then. The Habs need some production from their blue. This isn't a player who is facing career-threatening injuries who hasn't scored in recent years. this is a bonafide offensive D. And Barrie's $4.5M contract is very reasonable. It's not a dump.

Sure they can. It's been demonstrated on this site many times.

Yes, but they need to be $896,000 under cap because of their bonus overage penalty from last season. They can't be at 0 cap space. They need to have $896,000 in cap space.

I don't think people are accounting for that.

Capfriendly already included it in their calculations. You're counting it twice. Do the math: the $81,254,333 cap hit listed above includes the bonus overages on the next line. No need to leave $1.25M in cap space like you've done.

Habs can't make that deal...it puts them above the 10% for offseason.

As Montreal is rebuilding, they don't need anything on D outside of a guy that helps ensure their younger guys aren't thrown in the deep end. And considering Barrie already needs to be sheltered 5v5, it doesn't make much sense. Barrie also isn't going to pump that kind of PP production without a McDavid and Draisaitl. And, again, Montreal is rebuilding, an empty calorie point producing D doesn't help them now or in the future.

Its fine if you don't think Barrie is a dump. That doesn't mean he's a fit for Montreal unless they're sending money back the other way. And Hoffman and Armia are the only guys that really make sense for Montreal to send.

If Montreal really wants a veteran RD, they'll go after a UFA or a guy on an expiring deal.

Dang... oops. But now that I know that, I still can't get under cap by just trading Foegele. Not even if you use the cheapest options for open roster spots. I put Benson ($750k), and one of McKegg, Griffith, or Malone (@762.5k) on forward. And I have Murray ($750k), and Samorukov ($775k) on D. It's still $276,833 over cap. If you bury Ryan, you can get just under cap if you use cheap options only with Benson and 2 of Malone, McKegg, or Griffith. That really limits what you can do during the season. You can't even call up Shore, or Koekkoek if you need to, or Bourgault if he earns it. Even if you trade Ryan for nothing, that doesn't give you room to call up who you want to. You wouldn't be able to call up both Koekkoek and Shore at the same time as that would put you at least $51k over.

It seems like you have to trade Barrie to get under the cap. Then sign Subban who actually had better underlying numbers and more 5v5 points than Barrie last season on a terrible team (who knew?). Either that, or trade one of the young kids (Puljujarvi or Yamamoto), but that barely does it either. You'd have to trade one of them and Ryan to get any wiggle room to be able to freely call up players during the season. and I think that might be losing some future and making a new hole. Whereas paying Barrie $4.5M to play 3rd pair and have his PP time taken by Bouchard doesn't make sense. Especially when Subban's numbers are better than Barrie's.

I just made a team this morning that was cap compliant with just moving Foegele, so it's definitely possible. And I doubt Koekkoek plays this year, unless you have specific information otherwise?

I'd like to see it. What did you sign McLeod for? I have him at $1,175,000. Maybe that's a bit high. Ryan and McLeod are on your roster? What about Holloway?

Here's one from today (not mine): https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/636960