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Montreal Canadiens signed Kirby Dach (4 Years / $3,362,500 AAV)

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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:06 a.m.
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Kirby Dach has signed a new contract with the Montreal Canadiens.
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SIGNED BY: Kent Hughes
Length: 4 years
Value: $13,450,000
Expiry Status: RFA (Arb)
Cap % Tooltip: 4.08
Signing Team: Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens
Signing Date: Sep. 7, 2022
Source: CapFriendly

Kirby Dach signed a 4 year, $13,450,000 contract with the Montreal Canadiens on Sep. 7, 2022. The contract has a cap hit of $3,362,500.

SEASONClauseCap HitTooltipAAV TooltipP. BonusesTooltipS. BonusesTooltipBase SalaryTooltipTotal SalaryTooltipMinors SalTooltip
2022-23$3,362,500$3,362,500$0$0$2,500,000$2,500,000$2,500,000
2023-24$3,362,500$3,362,500$0$0$4,100,000$4,100,000$4,100,000
2024-25$3,362,500$3,362,500$0$0$2,850,000$2,850,000$2,850,000
2025-26$3,362,500$3,362,500$0$0$4,000,000$4,000,000$4,000,000
TOTAL$13,450,000$13,450,000$0$0$13,450,000$13,450,000$13,450,000
Qualifying OfferTooltip: $4,000,000
Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
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Bestgoalie33
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Could be a steal of a deal for MTL if he continues to grow his game
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:09 a.m.
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He hasn't done anything to justify this contract. Wow. 4 years
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.
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Solid contract. $3.4 is modest 3C money, no real downside for the team even if the Dach reclamation project isn't a major success.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:11 a.m.
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I voted yes simply for the potential of this contract. If he improves under a fresh start in MTL, this could look good.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.
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The fourth year is what raised the AAV, didnt prouve much so far so a bit risky but as Mtl, i believe he can be a steal.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.
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Reasonable money for a 3C which is what he's now, and if he takes off, he'll be one year away from UFA which gives him plenty of leverage compared to if this deal expired a year or two earlier. I'd say it's pretty good for both parties.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:14 a.m.
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Decent aav for a guy I believe will top out as an above average middle six forward, good signing by Hughes.


However, this doesn't change the fact that trading picks #13 and #66 to acquire this guy seem like a big mistake.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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If he stays like he is (injured, underperforming) it'll be an overpay, but if he finds out a way to be the player he's supposed to be, this could be a steal!
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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This gives him time to show he can be a top 6 player. If he's not, there's no risk to it as it's just 4 years long.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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High risk, high reward, Dach could stagnate and not do anything for the next four years or he could bloom into our 2c behind Suzuki, let's see how it plays out
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:32 a.m.
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Who knows maybe he'll be good at some point
Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:48 a.m.
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That's not a usual contract for a forward coming out of his ELC. There's no real comparable if you use CF tool

I really dont mind the contract anyway. The WORST would be a buyout, which has almost 0 consequence for a player under 25 (which is the case for this contract).

I trust, like many, Hughes intelligence.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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Based on his career thus far it is an overpayment, but this could turn into something.

Still, I voted no.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:04 a.m.
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I dislike overpaying a 21 y.o.

Montreal had constant development problems with high potential players. (See Galchenyuk, Kotkaniemi, Leblanc,Tinordi,etc.)

They get all the attention and pressure, looses focus with puck bunnies and nightlife and end up never realising their potential.

I fail to see how giving a kid a who hasn't done anything a garanteed 12M is supposed to help avoid this scenario.

They just had to give him a bit less than Kakko's contract and make him work for his next payday. The salary cap will be going up by then anyway.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: pinslack
That's not a usual contract for a forward coming out of his ELC. There's no real comparable if you use CF tool

I really dont mind the contract anyway. The WORST would be a buyout, which has almost 0 consequence for a player under 25 (which is the case for this contract).

I trust, like many, Hughes intelligence.


I'm not using the contract comparables tool, but I'd say Charlie Coyle getting $3.2M x 5 in 2014 coming off his ELC after putting up 35 Pts in 82 GP is pretty close to Dach getting $3.3625M x 4 after putting up 26 Pts in 70 GP.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
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Quoting: jpsnow13
I dislike overpaying a 21 y.o.

Montreal had constant development problems with high potential players. (See Galchenyuk, Kotkaniemi, Leblanc,Tinordi,etc.)

They get all the attention and pressure, looses focus with puck bunnies and nightlife and end up never realising their potential.

I fail to see how giving a kid a who hasn't done anything a garanteed 12M is supposed to help avoid this scenario.

They just had to give him a bit less than Kakko's contract and make him work for his next payday. The salary cap will be going up by then anyway.


I mean Leblanc and Tinordi didn’t have much potential. Max 3c or 5-6 D with size
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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The guy might thrive for the next few years making this contract somewhat of a steal.

I wouldn't have counted on this if this were still under the old Habs management.

But I'll trust the Gordon-Hughes-StLouis new style to give Dach the best chances to success.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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Reasonable money for a 3C which is what he's now, and if he takes off, he'll be one year away from UFA which gives him plenty of leverage compared to if this deal expired a year or two earlier. I'd say it's pretty good for both parties.



He’s better on the wing.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:26 a.m.
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I'd rather overpay a younger player for potential than an older player for what he did last season. Besides, we have a good track record with stealing Chicago centers and getting good value out of them.
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Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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jpsnow13
You know nothing JS
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Quoting: pinslack
That's not a usual contract for a forward coming out of his ELC. There's no real comparable if you use CF tool

I really dont mind the contract anyway. The WORST would be a buyout, which has almost 0 consequence for a player under 25 (which is the case for this contract).

I trust, like many, Hughes intelligence.


Bennett 21y.o.63P/159G 2x2M
McCann 22y.o.53P/166G 2x2.25M
Lundestrom 22y.o. 44P/151G 2x1.8M
Chytil 21y.o. 71P/186G 2x2.3M
Thomas 21.y.o. 87P/169G 2x2.8M
Mittelstadt 22y.o. 61P/155G 3x2.5M

Dach 21y.o. 59P/152G 4x3.7M

Worst deal of the bunch for sure.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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Could easily be a steal, especially with all of Montréal's young talent
Not too expensive, so if he busts it's not too much of a issue
8/10 good sign
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Minimont
I mean Leblanc and Tinordi didn’t have much potential. Max 3c or 5-6 D with size


Easy to say afteward. They were 1st rounders with higher potential back then none the less.
Sep. 7, 2022 at 10:52 a.m.
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woof

yeah i don't like this deal at all
Sep. 7, 2022 at 11:02 a.m.
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Overpay rn but if he progresses it’ll probably end up being a fair to good deal.
 
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