No from Boston imo. It’s not bad value wise but with McAvoy and Grzelcyk out to start the year it looks like Zboril will finally be getting a shot he’s deserved for a long time. He was very good last year before injury, not elite but like a comfortable bottom four defender. Hopefully he returns to that kind of play now. And Kaut would just add to the long list of young Boston forwards who are up-and-down in the NHL and AHL that can’t keep a roster spot.

Value's probably fine, but Boston needs Zboril more than they need Kaut

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

It does make sense to hold onto Zboril until guys get healthy. After that though it seems like there's a logjam on D. What would the price for him be in terms of just picks once guys are healthy (assuming he doesn't play lights-out to finally take a full time job)?

I don’t think the value is close. Zboril looked incredible before tearing his ACL last year. He was the bruins best LD at the time of the injury. Kaut has looked like a career AHLer to me in limited viewing. Wait reilly? Maybe forbort? Sure. Doesn’t make sense for the bruins to move zboril. The price for him would be far more than any team would be willing (rightfully so) to pay.

If he doesn't and is just a fringe 3rd pair D, probably a 4th/5th round pick although it could be less if the Bruins need cap space when everyone is back. They will most likely keep him even if he struggles for the first months and I assume someone making in the $3M range will be moved.

Im a Pinto fan, but that is an overpay. Sens seem very high on him tho.

If you believe Pinto can become a long-term 2C then this is a price worth paying.

Ottawa would probably want some established players instead of futures though since they already have a tonne of prospects and want to compete sooner rather than later.

For example I saw someone on hfboards suggested Girard for Pinto + JBD/Thomson + 2nd + Hamonic (capdump). Girard would give the Sens the top 4 dman capable of playing on the right that they need.

If you believe Pinto can become a long-term 2C then this is a price worth paying.

Ottawa would probably want some established players instead of futures though since they already have a tonne of prospects and want to compete sooner rather than later.

For example I saw someone on hfboards suggested Girard for Pinto + JBD/Thomson + 2nd + Hamonic (capdump). Girard would give the Sens the top 4 dman capable of playing on the right that they need.

most likely just a 3rd/4th but i feel zboril isn't gonna be the odd man out and 1 of reilly or forbort will be gone 1st just due to cap.
Zboril when he was playing was a faster/ more physical/ more defensively reliable version of reilly he just needed more time to build with the team.

i may be high on him but if he continues the way he does i wouldn't be surprised if B's looked to even out the dcore more and ran something like

Lindholm/Zboril - Mcavoy
Lindholm/Zboril- Carlo
Grzelcyk - Forbort

forbort needs a more offensive dpartner on his line and mcavoy has carried dmen before in chara and lauzon but i find the best success is when mcavoy has a solid puck mover on his line as then Mcavoy's offence just explodes.

I don’t think it makes sense for ottawa to be selling roster players for futures. They would also regret trading pinto especially for this. If you’re moving pinto, it’s because you’re getting a very good a RD with pretty high upside . I don’t see anyone available that could match that need

I posted something along those lines I do believe. I would still do that. Even if Pinto becomes a higher end 3c, I am happy if Avs are adding some RHD depth. No reason to rush JBD/Thomson. Move Manson down to 3rd pair when EJ retires, if need be.
I think I value adding cap space and keeping the '23 32nd pick more. Could be an underpay if both become full time nhlers. If it's this season, I think I'd rather the proposed trade +JBD, next off season, Girard.

RHD with high end upside are reserved for established nhler's with g.w.g's that sends teams to the SCF in back to back years.
Edit, just seen RD, not RHD. May I interest you a slightly more expensive Samuel Girard?

How would you feel about Pinto+ for Girard?

I just don’t know if Girard is the guy that we need in our lineup on D for the playoffs. There’s also the whole handedness thing . Also the ++ is the issue, no need to make a trade imo with Pinto or Greig. Just wait till they’re established and then if you do want to trade one of them, you don’t have to add anything

At full health he's not likely to be moved either. He's only a $1.1 million hit, under control for 2 years and only 25yrs old. He can play both LD & RD and basically anywhere in your bottom 4. You look at someone like Reilly on the other hand whose 29yrs old and a $3 million for 2 more years. He's a pure OFD which is kind of redundant with Grz in the fold. Could also look at a guy like Forbort whose also a $3 million for 2 more years and a LHD. More of a DFD though and his most value for Boston comes via the top PK unit.

No chance they make that deal. Counter productive. I doubt they have any interest in getting back Bowers

Pinto for a late 1st and a D prospect they don't need is not attractive at all



Ottawa is not trading Pinto for Chychrun so good luck finding the right deal here.

The only real need right now is a top-4 RHD, and unfortunately not Girard's type

And I wouldn't pay JBD/Thomson + 2nd on TOP of Pinto to get Girard either

All that will be more clear in a few months

Maybe if Girard was exactly the type I need I would consider but right now I wouldn't trade Pinto for Girard straight up. Pinto is crucial to the Sens rebuild.