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Montreal Canadiens signed Cayden Primeau (3 Years / $890,000 AAV)

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Sep. 8, 2022 at 8:38 a.m.
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Cayden Primeau has signed a new contract with the Montreal Canadiens.
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SIGNED BY: Kent Hughes
Length: 3 years
Value: $2,670,000
Expiry Status: RFA (Arb)
Cap % Tooltip: 1.08
Signing Team: Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens
Signing Date: Sep. 8, 2022
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Cayden Primeau signed a 3 year, $2,670,000 contract with the Montreal Canadiens on Sep. 8, 2022. The contract has a cap hit of $890,000.

SEASONClauseCap HitTooltipAAV TooltipP. BonusesTooltipS. BonusesTooltipBase SalaryTooltipTotal SalaryTooltipMinors SalTooltip
2022-23$890,000$890,000$0$0$770,000$770,000$770,000
2023-24$890,000$890,000$0$0$800,000$800,000$800,000
2024-25$890,000$890,000$0$0$1,100,000$1,100,000$1,100,000
TOTAL$2,670,000$2,670,000$0$0$2,670,000$2,670,000$2,670,000
Qualifying OfferTooltip: $1,068,000
Sep. 8, 2022 at 8:41 a.m.
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Went Wughes!!!


Interesting that it's a 1 way deal, does that mean Montembeault is gone?
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.
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Went Wughes!!!


Interesting that it's a 1 way deal, does that mean Montembeault is gone?


No. You’ve been here long enough, you should know 1 way deal or 2 way deals doesn’t affect waivers. He is waivers exempt for 2022-23, after that he will fight with Montembeault to be Allen’s back up in 2023-24. Whoever win the back up spot stays in the NHL, the other (probably Montembeault gets waived in Laval)
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 9:02 a.m.
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3 year deal for a goalie who is not nhl level. 890k is a steal though, well done kent hughes
Sep. 8, 2022 at 9:05 a.m.
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Basically what I would have predicted. Surprised 1st year is still a 1-way, figured they'd save a bit of money but not a big deal, still waiver exempt this season.
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 9:11 a.m.
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Weekes tweeted that Montreal is working on an extension with Allen so next year's duo should be set. Great deal for Montreal, thought he would've wanted over a million for that term.
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 9:13 a.m.
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both montembault and primeau are bums but good contract regardless
Sep. 8, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Went Wughes!!!


Interesting that it's a 1 way deal, does that mean Montembeault is gone?


Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
No. You’ve been here long enough, you should know 1 way deal or 2 way deals doesn’t affect waivers. He is waivers exempt for 2022-23, after that he will fight with Montembeault to be Allen’s back up in 2023-24. Whoever win the back up spot stays in the NHL, the other (probably Montembeault gets waived in Laval)


Yeah! You should know better!
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.
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No. You’ve been here long enough, you should know 1 way deal or 2 way deals doesn’t affect waivers. He is waivers exempt for 2022-23, after that he will fight with Montembeault to be Allen’s back up in 2023-24. Whoever win the back up spot stays in the NHL, the other (probably Montembeault gets waived in Laval)


i think montembeault would get claimed before reaching laval... unless he's terrible this year and more expensive next year, he would be an upgrade at backup for chicago or arizona or even winnipeg... but its possible habs just let him walk as rfa next summer rather than extending him if primeau looks ready
Sep. 8, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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They should extend Allen now for 2 years.

Then ween out Monty. See if Primeau can take the starter reigns by then.

If not. Cut everyone loose. Look to UFAs, Dobes & Dichow.
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
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i think montembeault would get claimed before reaching laval... unless he's terrible this year and more expensive next year, he would be an upgrade at backup for chicago or arizona or even winnipeg... but its possible habs just let him walk as rfa next summer rather than extending him if primeau looks ready


I think he clears. Chicago and Arizona do not want to get "better" as it hurts their tanking efforts.

There are going to be half a dozen 3rd goalies waived to the AHL at the end of camp. If a team has an injury or like Winnipeg wants to upgrade their backup then you might see small ripples but generally no NHL team can offer a roster spot to those guys so they clear
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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I don't think he's an NHL goalie but obviously a good deal regardless
Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:00 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
No. You’ve been here long enough, you should know 1 way deal or 2 way deals doesn’t affect waivers. He is waivers exempt for 2022-23, after that he will fight with Montembeault to be Allen’s back up in 2023-24. Whoever win the back up spot stays in the NHL, the other (probably Montembeault gets waived in Laval)


I was aware about the 1 way/2 way contracts. I just figured his waiver eligibility was up.
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:15 p.m.
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Should honestly have him backup the following season and just trade Allen at the TDL

As the concern I got is Allen's gonna get a 3 year deal and push Primeau out into waiver claim territory in the coming years
Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:19 p.m.
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Should honestly have him backup the following season and just trade Allen at the TDL

As the concern I got is Allen's gonna get a 3 year deal and push Primeau out into waiver claim territory in the coming years


??? Allen-Montembeault in 2022-23
After Allen the starter and mentor for Primeau in 2023-24 and further. Montembeault will get waived in 2023-24, he is a 3rd goalie string
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:39 p.m.
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??? Allen-Montembeault in 2022-23
After Allen the starter and mentor for Primeau in 2023-24 and further. Montembeault will get waived in 2023-24, he is a 3rd goalie string


I think Price returns 2023-2024 and if Allen is still around Primeau got no spot

As yes if Price cant come back then bringing Allen back is fine but if he feels hes ready to come back thats when there will be issues
Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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I think Price returns 2023-2024 and if Allen is still around Primeau got no spot

As yes if Price cant come back then bringing Allen back is fine but if he feels hes ready to come back thats when there will be issues


there is 0 chance price plays another game in the nhl at this point. Same as weber.
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Sep. 8, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.
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I think Price returns 2023-2024 and if Allen is still around Primeau got no spot

As yes if Price cant come back then bringing Allen back is fine but if he feels hes ready to come back thats when there will be issues


Price made a post on Instagram literally saying he’ll never play again
Sep. 8, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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Should honestly have him backup the following season and just trade Allen at the TDL

As the concern I got is Allen's gonna get a 3 year deal and push Primeau out into waiver claim territory in the coming years


Our future will be Allen-Primeau. We could always trade Allen anyways. Don't see Montembeault having a future here.
Sep. 8, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.
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Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
No. You’ve been here long enough, you should know 1 way deal or 2 way deals doesn’t affect waivers. He is waivers exempt for 2022-23, after that he will fight with Montembeault to be Allen’s back up in 2023-24. Whoever win the back up spot stays in the NHL, the other (probably Montembeault gets waived in Laval)


A one way deal still means he is going to make close to a millions dollar to play in the AHL next season. That's far from cheap.

Anyway injuries will happen and he will be called up...
Sep. 8, 2022 at 5:36 p.m.
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The amount of term is surprising
Sep. 9, 2022 at 6:53 a.m.
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As much as this is a minor deal, this is the sort of thing that Bergevin rarely ever did. By paying an AHL goalie real money on a one way deal, you can create a situation where you can send them up and down while still making them feel they are part of a plan, give them some security and runway to develop, and if it works out that he's even a competent backup in year 2 or 3, you have a decent chunk of cap space. Worst case scenario a rich team invested some real money in a young player with no impact to their cap situation what so ever.

These deals fizzle out to essentially nothing more often then they turn into wins, but the risk is essentially 0, so you find a good number of these types of things over the next few years and the couple that do work out are still huge value.
Sep. 9, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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As much as this is a minor deal, this is the sort of thing that Bergevin rarely ever did. By paying an AHL goalie real money on a one way deal, you can create a situation where you can send them up and down while still making them feel they are part of a plan, give them some security and runway to develop, and if it works out that he's even a competent backup in year 2 or 3, you have a decent chunk of cap space. Worst case scenario a rich team invested some real money in a young player with no impact to their cap situation what so ever.

These deals fizzle out to essentially nothing more often then they turn into wins, but the risk is essentially 0, so you find a good number of these types of things over the next few years and the couple that do work out are still huge value.


didnt bergevin give lingdren a 3 year deal too around 800k?
Sep. 9, 2022 at 10:22 a.m.
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didnt bergevin give lingdren a 3 year deal too around 800k?


Wasn't a 1 way deal, but that doesn't matter. Either we trade Montembeault or Allen (not likely considering there's rumours about him resigning). Then we play Primeau as a backup Goalie.
Sep. 9, 2022 at 4:51 p.m.
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At worst, it is injury insurance on a contract that is 100% buriable. That's a win.
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