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Kaner long term and other offseason moves

Created by: NucksnOilers
Team: 2023-24 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2022
Published: Sep. 8, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$975,000
2$2,750,000
4$3,750,000
2$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$8,250,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
Trades
1.
NYR
    Kaner at the deadline with extension
    CHI
    1. Kakko, Kaapo
    2. Lundkvist, Nils
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (NYR)
    2.
    ARI
    1. Jones, Zachary
    2. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
    3.
    NYR
    1. 2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
    2. 2025 1st round pick (ANA)
    ANA
    1. Kreider, Chris
    Additional Details:
    Most of his goals came off the powerplay and he had an insanely high shooting percentage.

    A team like Anaheim looking to make a playoff push in 2023-2024 will wanna bolster that top 6 with a goal scoring winger and will bite hard
    4.
    MTL
    1. Kravtsov, Vitali [RFA Rights]
    2. Väisänen, Kalle [Reserve List]
    3. 2024 4th round pick (NYR)
    5.
    NYR
    1. Barabanov, Alexander ($1,250,000 retained)
    2. 2023 5th round pick (SJS)
    SJS
    1. 2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
    6.
    NYR
    1. 2024 2nd round pick (ANA)
    Additional Details:
    Trade fix for the Kreider trade
    ANA
    1. 2025 1st round pick (ANA)
    Buyouts
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    21$84,500,000$85,078,749$610,892$932,500-$578,749
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    $11,642,857$11,642,857
    LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $2,750,000$2,750,000
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    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 4
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    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    C, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    $8,250,000$8,250,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
    LW
    RFA - 3
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $3,641,667$3,641,667
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $775,000$775,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    $9,500,000$9,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $5,666,667$5,666,667
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $4,600,000$4,600,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    G
    RFA - 2
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    $3,750,000$3,750,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Rangers
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $775,000$775,000
    G
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:37 p.m.
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    Zona says no, Ducks are idk, San Jose probably says no & so does Chicago
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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    So you are acknowledging Kreider's insane shooting percentage, selling high, but figuring someone would buy high on him and take that long term cap hit for a 1st and 2nd?
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.
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    “A team like Anaheim looking to make a playoff push in 2023-2024 will wanna bolster that top 6 with a goal scoring winger and will bite hard“

    *William Nylander is calling their name*
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    So you are acknowledging Kreider's insane shooting percentage, selling high, but figuring someone would buy high on him and take that long term cap hit for a 1st and 2nd?


    Best part about that is this isn’t this upcoming season it’s next season where he potentially might not have that shooting percentage & if Laffy doesn’t grow into the star he was meant to, then he just significantly downgraded the team
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:39 p.m.
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    Anaheim does not do this

    Why would we trade for a 31 year old who is due 6.5M until he is like 36 when we will have guys like Zegras Terry Drysdale McTavish Zellweger and more who will all need contracts in that time man

    Verbeek isn’t dumb, he won’t ‘bite hard’
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    So you are acknowledging Kreider's insane shooting percentage, selling high, but figuring someone would buy high on him and take that long term cap hit for a 1st and 2nd?


    Okok fair point the goal of that trade was to get cap the picks don't need to be exact
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    Anaheim does not do this

    Why would we trade for a 31 year old who is due 6.5M until he is like 36 when we will have guys like Zegras Terry Drysdale McTavish Zellweger and more who will all need contracts in that time man

    Verbeek isn’t dumb, he won’t ‘bite hard’


    Picks didn't really matter to me it was changed to 2 seconds instead
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Okok fair point the goal of that trade was to get cap the picks don't need to be exact


    I still don’t think the Ducks do that
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Okok fair point the goal of that trade was to get cap the picks don't need to be exact


    I think others will realize that cap hit will look worse over time. He had an amazing year, but so much came right in front of the net. He plays a game that can wear and tear a player to the ground.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Picks didn't really matter to me it was changed to 2 seconds instead


    Ducks don’t want Kreider, that’s what he’s saying
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: Drshnuckels91
    Picks didn't really matter to me it was changed to 2 seconds instead


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    I still don’t think the Ducks do that


    No, we don’t need or want that contract both with the term and aav
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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    I do think also other teams, namely COL, could beat that offer for Kane. Kakko is not that good....Lundkvist is hyped but hasn't shown much in the NHL...Kane is AWFUL defensively, but he puts up points and is a big name.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    No, we don’t need or want that contract both with the term and aav


    tbh if you want to bolster your Top 6, It’s the last year of Nylander’s deal & most likely he isn’t resigning so i’d try & get some value for him if i’m Dubas but lets get to that season first Lol
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    I do think also other teams, namely COL, could beat that offer for Kane. Kakko is not that good....Lundkvist is hyped but hasn't shown much in the NHL...Kane is AWFUL defensively, but he puts up points and is a big name.


    The Leafs,Oilers,Flames,Stars, Hell Vegas & Tampa could give a better offer than that
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:46 p.m.
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    tbh if you want to bolster your Top 6, It’s the last year of Nylander’s deal & most likely he isn’t resigning so i’d try & get some value for him


    I don’t think he is a Verbeek type of player though honestly
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.
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    I don’t think he is a Verbeek type of player though honestly


    He still is only 26, 2 years can change a guy, especially how he looked in the World Championships, If he plays more like that then he will be a-lot more intriguing
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:50 p.m.
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    I'm a Ranger fan, and even I'm insulted by that Chychrun trade on the Coyotes behalf.

    Every RFA was lowballed on their offers.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.
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    Sharks decline. Barabanov has potential for 50 points and is on a cheap deal for that production. For half retention it’s going to cost more than that.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.
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    @Drshnuckels91 It's going to be very hard to move Kreider considering his NMC, his cap hit if his production does fall off and his age. A team like Boston might be interested in him though if they lose Pastrnak assuming that Marchand and Bergeron are still around for another year. Otherwise, a team with a young core, like Anaheim who doesn't have anyone signed yet aren't going to take on a big cap like his with that much term. The Isles are another potential option assuming Lou is still the GM, but because the Rangers and Isles are rivals, they might not be able to get a deal done. Of course for Lou to even pursue Kreider it would require that he doesn't get a scoring winger elsewhere, and Kreider would at least need to be scoring 30Gs. Maybe Carolina as well if there's some retention, and there aren't better options, and they still need scoring, I would imagine though that they find internal solutions+ cheap UFA scoring help.

    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    I do think also other teams, namely COL, could beat that offer for Kane. Kakko is not that good....Lundkvist is hyped but hasn't shown much in the NHL...Kane is AWFUL defensively, but he puts up points and is a big name.


    Quoting: T0R
    The Leafs,Oilers,Flames,Stars, Hell Vegas & Tampa could give a better offer than that


    What matters is which teams Kane selects and how many, if there are just two options, there won't be much of a bidding war probably because they aren't going to want to overpay. Kakko (especially if he shows progression this season) and Lundkvist aren't bad pieces, but they will likely want a 1st instead of a 2nd at the very least.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    What matters is which teams Kane selects and how many, if there are just two options, there won't be much of a bidding war probably because they aren't going to want to overpay. Kakko (especially if he shows progression this season) and Lundkvist aren't bad pieces, but they will likely want a 1st instead of a 2nd at the very least.


    Kakko needing to show progress is the big key here. 18pts in 43 games (including just 7 goals) is not impressive. If he wasn't a 2nd overall, people would be blasting this even more. It's so tied to his draft status and not his results.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Kakko needing to show progress is the big key here. 18pts in 43 games (including just 7 goals) is not impressive. If he wasn't a 2nd overall, people would be blasting this even more. It's so tied to his draft status and not his results.


    Hopefully he starts to find his way soon like Lafreniere has. If not he might need a change of scenery before he turns into the next Lias Andersson. Interestingly enough Andersson was moved after 3 years in NY, and Kakko is going to play in his 4th year. The good thing is that Kakko has had some progress over the 3 years, however small it might have been.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 3:27 p.m.
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    Well, Arizona and Anaheim definitely hard pass.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.
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    SJ keeps Barabanov for that price. He's more important to SJ than other teams probably. It'd be more like no retention or any picks going back and just the straight 2nd.
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    Sep. 8, 2022 at 4:48 p.m.
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    Arizona and Anaheim easy declines. San Jose declines. Rangers easily decline the Montreal trade. Chicago would accept that but there will be multiple teams that beat the Rangers offer so they pass.

    All the RFA's decline their offers.
    Sep. 8, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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    Barabanov was a total steal for the sharks, TOR literally gave him away for a AHL player that wont ever see much if any NHL time.
    while he may only top out at 15-18 goals 45-50 points which in that alone is fantastic for a guy making 2.5 mil, the sharks value him more for the chemestry he has with Meier and Hertl.
    he is more than willing to take hits and grind along the boards and wins a lot of puck battles that wind up being goals for the big 2.
    the stats just don't tel the whole story, but the eye test shows a hard worker with solid middle 6 skill set that makes his line-mates job easier.
    doubt sharks move him but if they do it would have to be for a 2nd plus a prospect. and i doubt most teams outside San Jose value him that much.
     
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