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Initial Creation Date: Sep. 10, 2022
Published: Sep. 10, 2022
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
DeBrincat, Alex8$9,250,000
Pinto, Shane2$2,750,000
Formenton, Alex2$2,750,000
Bernard-Docker, Jacob1$900,000
Kastelic, Mark1$900,000
Brännström, Erik1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zub, Artem5$4,500,000
Trades
OTT
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
  • Colin White: $875,000
  • Michael Del Zotto: $750,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$80,990,713$0$2,275,000$2,509,287
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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DeBrincat, Alex
$9,250,000
LW, RW
RFA
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Stützle, Tim
$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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Giroux, Claude
$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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Norris, Joshua
$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Greig, Ridly
$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Pinto, Shane
$2,750,000
C
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Joseph, Mathieu
$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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Formenton, Alex
$2,750,000
LW
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Kastelic, Mark
$900,000
C
RFA - 2
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Kelly, Parker
$762,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Thomson, Lassi
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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Sanderson, Jake
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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Zub, Artem
$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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Søgaard, Mads
$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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Brännström, Erik
$900,000
LD/RD
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Bernard-Docker, Jacob
$900,000
RD
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Sep. 10, 2022 at 3:34 p.m.
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Zub Is Not Getting More Than 3.5 Million
Sep. 10, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Aidans111
Zub Is Not Getting More Than 3.5 Million


I would love for that but he's getting paid $3.25m this season and he'll be getting a raise for sure.
I see him getting 30 points while playing 22+ mins a night this season against top competition.
Comparables are Carlo, Marino, Murphy, etc.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 3:48 p.m.
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Debrincat is really good, but at 5’7 165LBS. he is not build to last, i would be afraid to signs him that much.
he is a 40 goal scorer but has never been a PPG guy.
i should try to sign him before the season starts and keep him under 9 mil.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 3:50 p.m.
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Debrincat is really good, but at 5’7 165LBS. he is not build to last, i would be afraid to signs him that much.
he is a 40 goal scorer but has never been a PPG guy.
i should try to sign him before the season starts and keep him under 9 mil.


His QO is $9m so that would never happen. If we don't pay him, someone else will. I think his game will last given his speed and elusiveness. Also doesn't he have like a 378 game iron man streak going?

Edit: It's 128 games (21st in the league at the moment). But he only missed a hand full of games in his career so far.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:02 p.m.
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His QO is $9m so that would never happen. If we don't pay him, someone else will. I think his game will last given his speed and elusiveness. Also doesn't he have like a 378 game iron man streak going?



Edit: It's 128 games (21st in the league at the moment). But he only missed a hand full of games in his career so far.


that’s good but all it takes is a knee injury to slow him down and without that top end speed he would lose a lot, and while his QO is 9 i doubt he balks at 8 yr 8.75. he has never been a PPG guy so i’m not sure he gets 9. just like Meier QO is 10 mil but he will never get a multi year 10 mil offer.
Fiala is very similar to Debrincat in PPG but doesn’t have Debrincat shot fiala got 7& 7.85 i could see Debrincat 7/8 year 8.5-8.75. 9.25 would be a bit of an overpay to me.
hell Gaudreau was only 9.75 and he was coming off a 115 point season.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Aidans111
Zub Is Not Getting More Than 3.5 Million


He's a 20+ min a night RHD. Those guys get paid every time, and he's actually good. No reason to even hesitate imo.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Debrincat is really good, but at 5’7 165LBS. he is not build to last, i would be afraid to signs him that much.
he is a 40 goal scorer but has never been a PPG guy.
i should try to sign him before the season starts and keep him under 9 mil.


Debrincat May Get 9 Million But Im Not Sure
I Didn't Know He Had An Iron Man Streak

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His QO is $9m so that would never happen. If we don't pay him, someone else will. I think his game will last given his speed and elusiveness. Also doesn't he have like a 378 game iron man streak going?

Edit: It's 128 games (21st in the league at the moment). But he only missed a hand full of games in his career so far.


Debrincat Will Likely Get 8.75 Million For 7 Years
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Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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Debrincat May Get 9 Million But Im Not Sure
I Didn't Know He Had An Iron Man Streak


Debrincat Will Likely Get 8.75 Million For 7 Years


that seems more realistic and safer for Ottawa. but we will see.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
that’s good but all it takes is a knee injury to slow him down and without that top end speed he would lose a lot, and while his QO is 9 i doubt he balks at 8 yr 8.75. he has never been a PPG guy so i’m not sure he gets 9. just like Meier QO is 10 mil but he will never get a multi year 10 mil offer.
Fiala is very similar to Debrincat in PPG but doesn’t have Debrincat shot fiala got 7& 7.85 i could see Debrincat 7/8 year 8.5-8.75. 9.25 would be a bit of an overpay to me.
hell Gaudreau was only 9.75 and he was coming off a 115 point season.


That's the case for literally every professional athlete. Injuries can happen to anyone.
We're talking 41 goals and 78 points in 82 games. He's got the 8th most goals over the last 5 years among ALL NHLers.
If he puts up similar numbers to his usual this season, he easily gets $9m+.
I would love for him to get sub $9m but just don't see it happening.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:45 p.m.
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That's the case for literally every professional athlete. Injuries can happen to anyone.
We're talking 41 goals and 78 points in 82 games. He's got the 8th most goals over the last 5 years among ALL NHLers.
If he puts up similar numbers to his usual this season, he easily gets $9m+.
I would love for him to get sub $9m but just don't see it happening.


yes injuries can derail any player, however bigger stronger guys or those who don’t depend on speed as their game tend to recover better from injuries or losing a step, take Pavelski for instance!
but again if Ottawa gives him 9+ it’s not a bad deal… but sub 9 would be safer.
Sep. 10, 2022 at 4:52 p.m.
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Pretty realistic.

My lines are…

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
DeBrincat - Stutzle - Giroux
Formenton - Pinto - Joseph
Grieg - Kastelic - Kelly

Chabot - Thomson
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Docker

Forsberg - Søgaard
Sep. 10, 2022 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
yes injuries can derail any player, however bigger stronger guys or those who don’t depend on speed as their game tend to recover better from injuries or losing a step, take Pavelski for instance!
but again if Ottawa gives him 9+ it’s not a bad deal… but sub 9 would be safer.


It's the opposite. Larger players without good speed tend to lose a step to injury because they can no longer keep up.
Sep. 11, 2022 at 6:40 a.m.
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Considering all the big names in this year UFA class took much less than what people thought they would get, Cat would be lucky to get 9M when he hits UFA
 
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