If you want to nickel and dime for the 7th round pick, I won't fight you on it.

Barrie is a cap dump fyi

So you think trading Barrie for a next to nothing just to sign a bunch of losers is a good strategy? I just don't see it.

Because perennial 50-point defensemen shouldn't make $4.5M?

In this market a defenceman who is one of the worst defenceman DEFENSIVELY in the league 4.5 million this off season is ALOT it’s impossible to move contracts so yes he is a cap dump this off season at least

This just isn't true. He's been fine for Edmonton these past 2 years. You must be looking at JFresh charts lol.

In the past 2 seasons he has scored 129, 15-74-89 +7, good for 10th in the league and an 82 game average of 57 points. His on-ice goal differential at 5v5 in that span was 108-95 (+13), and in the playoffs he posted 16-9 goals. At just $4.5M, he's a steal and EXACTLY what a contending team needs.

No I’m looking at all advanced analytics Evolving hockey, J Fresh, Moneypuck etc he’s horrible across the board league bottom horrible. Just watching him is horrible he makes so many terrible turnovers a game. Did you really just put +/- in an argument that’s when I know you’re clueless. He’s not a steal at all if anything he’s overpaid by like 1.5-2 million hes a 2nd assist merchant that’s how he gets points. This off season it’s impossible to move players Columbus couldn’t move 1 year of Nyquist who has better impact than Barrie and on a better contact without paying at least a 2nd no teams want to take on a contract like that this off season he’s a cap dump.

LOL, you don't know the difference between 5v5 on ice goal differential and traditional +/- and you're calling ME clueless?

Barrie has had a positive GF% Rel in 8 of his past 9 seasons in a top-4 role, his offense outweighs his defense. You mention turnovers, but that's more a perception issue on your part than it is a real issue on Barrie's part, as his documented giveaways rate is decent for a player who handles the puck as much as he does.


I don't know how you can justify this egregious statement when John Klingberg - a guy who had fewer goals, primary assists and secondary assists over the past 2 year AND nearly 50% more giveaways - just signed a $7M deal.

I view Barrie as a cap casualty. His role has become redundant due to the emergence of Bouchard, as well as Broberg likely being promoted from the AHL. Trading Barrie for a modest return opens up cap space to sign McLeod and add additional depth to the lineup. It's a better solution than selling low on Pulju or strapping an asset to Foegele in order to move his cap hit.

Holl would be a solid partner for Broberg/Murray and would help to suppress zone entries, which the Oilers struggled to do throughout the previous season.

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I don't see it that way at all. Barrie was far better on the 1st unit than Bouchard last year, and in what world is there only room for 1 offensive defenseman per team? Joe Sakic won a Cup with several, the Avalanche didn't trade Girard just because they had Makar and Byram coming.


It's a great theory, but look who you spent the money on:

1. Ennis, 33, who the Oilers walked last year due to poor play.
2. Nash, 33, who has 2 goals and 11 points in his past 96 NHL games (over 2 seasons). He's not an NHLer at this point in his career.
3. Stone, 32, who has managed just 79 games in the past 4 seasons combined.
4. Virtanen, 26, who is coming off 2 terrible seasons where he managed just 5 points in 38 NHL games and then just 16 points in 36 KHL games.

All of those guys combined aren't worth Tyson Barrie, and very likely none of them will have any impact at all on this Oilers roster. If your point was to stack the AHL team with old has-beens you've done a good job, but you don't trade a perennial 50 point NHL rearguard for that.

I appreciate the dialogue.

To address your notes:

1. Ennis is an effective depth producer, Tippett's poor coaching isn't reflective on the player.
2. Nash; Irrelevant depth piece signed to fill a roster spot in the AHL. No impact on the Oilers salary cap.
3. Stone; Irrelevant depth piece signed to fill a roster spot in the AHL. No impact on the Oilers salary cap.
4. I included Virtanen because of the Oilers reported interest, he'd be fine as a depth piece.

The motivation to trade Barrie is:

1. To retain value in a trade and maintain our offensive depth, rather than selling low on Pulju or giving up additional assets to move Foegele.
2. Opening up cap space to sign McLeod.
3. Opening up cap space to allow for the addition of Holl.
4. Becoming cap compliant while fielding a complete roster.

I respect Barrie more than most on this site and can appreciate the elements he brings to the Oilers lineup. However, I think it would be in the Oilers best interest to consider moving him.

Sounds like they're looking to move JP instead...