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2022-23 NHL Pre-Season Discussion Thread #1: The Boys Are Back

Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:33 a.m.
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lol 2021 all over again for habs fan
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:37 a.m.
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I wish, but it seems Aho might be given the spot no matter what


I couldn’t see the tweet because it’s blocked on my ipad. Did it say aho was on the 3rd pair. My bad
Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:42 a.m.
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I shouldn't laugh at this, but i find it hilarious for some reason. What a way to make your mark.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:42 a.m.
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I couldn’t see the tweet because it’s blocked on my ipad. Did it say aho was on the 3rd pair. My bad


Yes, it’s most likely Aho. At one point Aho was seen on the same level as Toews in the AHL. He was thought of as a future 2nd pair PP1 D in the NHL. When Adam Pelech tore his Achilles a few years ago Aho was made the permanent 8th defenseman and rarerly got into games. He played like 3 games in a span of 2 years. It killed his development.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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I shouldn't laugh at this, but i find it hilarious for some reason. What a way to make your mark.


It’s all good, Chris kreider is probably laughing
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.
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rather slow news day, so here's a discussion piece:

With the power of hindsight, what do you think was the strongest draft for goaltenders?

My personal opinion is 2014, since it gave us:

- Thatcher Demko
- Alex Nedeljkovic
- VItek Vanacek
- Elvis Merzlikins
- Ilya Sorokin
- Ville Husso
- Kaapo Kakhonen
- Igor Shestyorkin

What's your opinion?
Sep. 22, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.
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I don’t know what kind of advice Sandin is getting but there will literally be a top 4 role ready for him in like 10-15 games. No chance Muzzin comes close to playing 82 games
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Bobcat205
rather slow news day, so here's a discussion piece:

With the power of hindsight, what do you think was the strongest draft for goaltenders?

My personal opinion is 2014, since it gave us:

- Thatcher Demko
- Alex Nedeljkovic
- VItek Vanacek
- Elvis Merzlikins
- Ilya Sorokin
- Ville Husso
- Kaapo Kakhonen
- Igor Shestyorkin

What's your opinion?


2012 is a good contender too

Vasi
Helly
Anderson
Ullmark
Murray
Drieger

Murray was at one time a top ten goalie.

Wait, Anderson was drafted twice?
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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The league isn’t ready for this





I will say, that D core could lead the Isles to the playoffs even if they struggle offensively (hypothetical). Im riding high on them (Dobson Romanov were my pivotal D selections in fantasy) - but that defence and goaltending is 2nd to few. If they can just get some ACTUAL (not Trotz Chemistry) chemistry, long term they're back where they left off. The Metro is a fascinating division.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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I will say, that D core could lead the Isles to the playoffs even if they struggle offensively (hypothetical). Im riding high on them (Dobson Romanov were my pivotal D selections in fantasy) - but that defence and goaltending is 2nd to few. If they can just get some ACTUAL (not Trotz Chemistry) chemistry, long term they're back where they left off. The Metro is a fascinating division.


forgive me for my naiveness but what is the difference between Trotz chemistry and normal chemistry?
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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forgive me for my naiveness but what is the different between Trotz chemistry and normal chemistry?


Dobson playing with Chara is Trotz chem. Which reminds me of orpik playing with Carlson back in the day I believe
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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That trade has turned out really weird
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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forgive me for my naiveness but what is the difference between Trotz chemistry and normal chemistry?


Trotz makes most players stick to the system, doesn’t let most players make reads and use their instincts.

Pelech and Pulock didn’t stick to the system, they took more risks but they were able to recover - part of the reason they were so good. Certain players on the isles need to be able to make reads and be instinctual to be successful (Dobson, Beauvillier, Barzal, Wahlstrom etc..)

So for a Romanov-Dobson pair, Dobson can take more risks in transition knowing he has a mobile D partner that can cover for him and vice versa. They don’t have to play conservative
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:23 p.m.
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I will say, that D core could lead the Isles to the playoffs even if they struggle offensively (hypothetical). Im riding high on them (Dobson Romanov were my pivotal D selections in fantasy) - but that defence and goaltending is 2nd to few. If they can just get some ACTUAL (not Trotz Chemistry) chemistry, long term they're back where they left off. The Metro is a fascinating division.


They’ll need to construct more high upside forward lines, but the D as is should be miles better than last season and possibly even better than 18-19 season when they had Pelech-Pulock, Toews-Mayfield as their top 4. The 3rd pair D was Leddy-Boychuk which was awful. Aho/Salo-Mayfield should be an above average 3rd pair.
Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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I would like an investigation into this. If it’s a lie they should forfeit their 2023 1st IMO



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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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I’m going to guess this will be done within the next week. It will be just over 9 mill, 9.1 x 8



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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
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....part of the what now?
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:42 p.m.
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I’m going to guess this will be done within the next week. It will be just over 9 mill, 9.1 x 8





Didn’t Johnny T say that
Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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Didn’t Johnny T say that


i think barzal means it
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Edited Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.
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I would like an investigation into this. If it’s a lie they should forfeit their 2023 1st IMO





Not sure LTIR is what he means. The pool of LTIR relief is only used if the Coyotes reach the upper limit of the cap. Is there some sort of requirement that a player that doesn't pass his physical get put there? Or does he just medically retire and the cap hit gets removed.

This is important because the Coyotes without Ladd's AAV are going to be below the cap floor.

Thus creating a need for them to add about $5 million in AAV to be in compliance. Thus sparking off a big bidder's market for that space with any or all of: Edmonton (Barrie?), Toronto (Kerfoot/Holl?), Florida (Hornqvist), and possibly Carolina (Gardiner).

If I were Arizona I would target Florida or Edmonton who are in the most desperate spot for cap relief; or even both if you could pull it off and acquire Barrie then flip him with retention to Florida who need RHD help.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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Didn’t Johnny T say that


No. Barzal also spends his summers on Long Island and his girlfriend is from NY. He likes the lifestyle. JT wife was from Toronto, she wanted to go back. Anyone who knew how to read between the lines knew a year before Tavares contract was up he was going to leave
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:15 p.m.
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I’m going to guess this will be done within the next week. It will be just over 9 mill, 9.1 x 8





sucks to hear about your injury @andrewladd
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:19 p.m.
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Is this a mistake or is he really waiver eligible?

Cause if he's waiver eligible... wtf Caps.
Sep. 22, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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https://www.tsn.ca/ice-chips-toronto-maple-leafs-jake-muzzin-back-discomfort-1.1852216

Whats with all the camp injuries

At this rate NHL teams will be fielding their AHL rosters

Also explains why he wasnt moved
 
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