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2022-23 NHL Pre-Season Discussion Thread #1: The Boys Are Back

Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Habs, may. Not be the best, but it's one of the best
If everyone healthy
Monohan - Dach - Caufield
Drouin - Suzuki - Gallagher
Dadonov - Dvorak - Anderson
Pitlick - Evans - Hoffman / Armia / Byron


Sheary>Rem Dowd=Evans Hathaway> all of those guys
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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I mean, I’d send down Irwin, Gus and Johansen out of those 3


If Carlsson does well, I'd agree. But MacLellan makes... questionable decisions in sending down/calling up players (ex. last year with calling up Kempny constantly over Alexeyev/Johansen, waiving Jonsson-Fjallby in preseason). It shouldn't be a hard decision, but I fear he may make it a hard decision.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.
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Does Dylan McLarth still have that suspension
Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Who has the best fourth line in the league


I'm biased, but I don't think you can find much better than Sheary-Dowd-Hathaway. Love the different aspects each player brings to the line, and how well they meshed last year in limited playing time.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Sheary>Rem Dowd=Evans Hathaway> all of those guys


That is so not true
Rem had over .55ppg last year. Much better than Sheary. Evans is better in all aspects than Dowd. And Hathaway is a nothing compared to Hoff and Army
Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Sheary>Rem Dowd=Evans Hathaway> all of those guys


Quoting: NoVaSpartan
I'm biased, but I don't think you can find much better than Sheary-Dowd-Hathaway. Love the different aspects each player brings to the line, and how well they meshed last year in limited playing time.


Really biased
Caps 4th line is just a classic teams 4th line, with an added chemistry
They are so not the best in the league
Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
That is so not true
Rem had over .55ppg last year. Much better than Sheary. Evans is better in all aspects than Dowd. And Hathaway is a nothing compared to Hoff and Army


REM isn’t a fourth line player. Hoffman was absolutely terrible last season. Worse than Gally imo,
Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
REM isn’t a fourth line player. Hoffman was absolutely terrible last season. Worse than Gally imo,


Hathaway is a Kyle Cliffford
Hoffman is better
Chemistry means nothing
You're right, rem is a 2nd/3rd line player, making our 4th line better
Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Really biased
Caps 4th line is just a classic teams 4th line, with an added chemistry
They are so not the best in the league


First of all, who would you say is better?

https://twitter.com/peterhassett/status/1518395344543010816?s=20&t=lpd2TfxkGhbSz-zadM7Lhg
This has been a microcosm of the 4th line's play, while I cannot link things for whatever reason, the heat maps with/without Dowd and Hathaway as well as their Jfresh stats prove they are two of the best 4th liners in the league, and they only improve with Sheary who put up 40 points and around 20 goals while bouncing between all 4 lines.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Hathaway is a Kyle Cliffford
Hoffman is better
Chemistry means nothing
You're right, rem is a 2nd/3rd line player, making our 4th line better


Son, how many times have I talked to you about trolling?
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Who has the best fourth line in the league


Ones I like are:

ANA
Max Jones/Derek Grant/Sam Carrick

LAK
Brendan Lemieux/Blake Lizotte/Carl Grunstrom

MIN
Connor Dewar/Frederick Gaudreau/Brandon Duhaime

NYI
Matt Martin/Casey Cizikas/Cal Clutterbuck

NJD
Miles Wood/Michael Mcleod/Nathan Bastian

SEA
Brandon Tanez/Moran Geekie/Jonas Donskoi

TBL
Patrick Maroon/Pierre-Edouard Bellemere/Corry Perry

VGS
William Carrier/Nic Roy/Keegan Kolesar
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Ones I like are:

ANA
Max Jones/Derek Grant/Sam Carrick

LAK
Brendan Lemieux/Blake Lizotte/Carl Grunstrom

MIN
Connor Dewar/Frederick Gaudreau/Brandon Duhaime

NYI
Matt Martin/Casey Cizikas/Cal Clutterbuck

NJD
Miles Wood/Michael Mcleod/Nathan Bastian

SEA
Brandon Tanez/Moran Geekie/Jonas Donskoi

TBL
Patrick Maroon/Pierre-Edouard Bellemere/Corry Perry

VGS
William Carrier/Nic Roy/Keegan Kolesar


I don’t think the isles one it stable anymore
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
I don’t think the isles one it stable anymore


ya, that's fair, Matt Martin should lose his spot.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Ones I like are:

ANA
Max Jones/Derek Grant/Sam Carrick

LAK
Brendan Lemieux/Blake Lizotte/Carl Grunstrom

MIN
Connor Dewar/Frederick Gaudreau/Brandon Duhaime

NYI
Matt Martin/Casey Cizikas/Cal Clutterbuck

NJD
Miles Wood/Michael Mcleod/Nathan Bastian

SEA
Brandon Tanez/Moran Geekie/Jonas Donskoi

TBL
Patrick Maroon/Pierre-Edouard Bellemere/Corry Perry

VGS
William Carrier/Nic Roy/Keegan Kolesar


Tanev is still going to be a 4th liner? I though with how well he started off last year, that he would be able to jump up in the lineup.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:00 p.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Tanev is still going to be a 4th liner? I though with how well he started off last year, that he would be able to jump up in the lineup.


Kraken added Björkstrand and Burakovsky, very limited room up in the lineup for Tanev to claim.
They are one of the deepest groups in the Pacific I'll admit, like a reverse Oilers team.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
Tanev is still going to be a 4th liner? I though with how well he started off last year, that he would be able to jump up in the lineup.


I am just using Daily Foaceoff they are usually pretty good with potential lineups. But even if it is Ryan Donato, still pretty solid 4th line
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Tintin
Kraken added Björkstrand and Burakovsky, very limited room up in the lineup for Tanev to claim.
They are one of the deepest groups in the Pacific I'll admit, like a reverse Oilers team.


I had forgotten about Jaden Schwartz, having Tanev on the 4th line really is a excess of riches in terms of forward depth.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Habs, may. Not be the best, but it's one of the best
If everyone healthy
Monohan - Dach - Caufield
Drouin - Suzuki - Gallagher
Dadonov - Dvorak - Anderson
Pitlick - Evans - Hoffman / Armia / Byron

The Habs don't have the best anything lol

The best 4th line in the league is Maroon-Bellemare-Perry and it's not close. The honourable mentions would be Lomberg-Luostarinen-Hornqvist and Hagelin-Dowd-Hathaway. I don't like Sheary there as much as Hagelin but last year that line was pretty good, so hopefully Sheary can plug that hole without reducing the line's overall effectiveness too much.
Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
Ones I like are:

ANA
Max Jones/Derek Grant/Sam Carrick

LAK
Brendan Lemieux/Blake Lizotte/Carl Grunstrom

MIN
Connor Dewar/Frederick Gaudreau/Brandon Duhaime

NYI
Matt Martin/Casey Cizikas/Cal Clutterbuck

NJD
Miles Wood/Michael Mcleod/Nathan Bastian

SEA
Brandon Tanez/Moran Geekie/Jonas Donskoi

TBL
Patrick Maroon/Pierre-Edouard Bellemere/Corry Perry

VGS
William Carrier/Nic Roy/Keegan Kolesar


And as soon as ZAR signs

ZAR-Kampf-Kubel am I right wink
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
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And as soon as ZAR signs

ZAR-Kampf-Kubel am I right wink


That would be the ideal 4th line for the Leafs, no question. But that leaves a hole at 3C and both Kerfoot and Jarnkrok (although able to) are better wingers.

It would be nice to get a scoring 3C, someone who can drive play somehow.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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And as soon as ZAR signs

ZAR-Kampf-Kubel am I right wink

You running Clifford-Jarnkrok-Simmonds on your 3rd line then? 💀💀
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
That would be the ideal 4th line for the Leafs, no question. But that leaves a hole at 3C and both Kerfoot and Jarnkrok (although able to) are better wingers.

It would be nice to get a scoring 3C, someone who can drive play somehow.


Jarnkrok to me is gonna be the 3c with Engvall on the left. As for whose the rw on that line no idea

Would be fun to do WN and have Engvall-Jarnkrok-WN but then that creates a JT issue. So more likely the other Swed Holmberg could get a shot. Heck maybe its the young playmaker Abruzzese
Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
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This is why nobody likes you lol. Of course a bottom 5 team isn’t going to have the best 4th line. Like Alfie11 said, the best 4th line is tampas and it isn’t close. I don’t like Tampa at all but it’s still not hard for me to agree they have the best 4th line.


And even if people don't agree with me.
Is this a way too treat me? Do you think it's write to always act disrespectful towards me? This isn't a "lol" moment.
I'm legitimately sick of all of you and your extremely disrespectful comments. It's gone far enough.
Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: capsfan2121
Who has the best fourth line in the league


They werent great in the regular season (didnt really play together much since Cogliano was a TDL add) but the Avs 4th line of Cogliano-Helm-O'Connor were fantastic in the playoffs

Maroon-Bellemare-Perry is also solid (kinda the opposite where they were good in the regular season but not so much in the playoffs)
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
This is why nobody likes you lol. Of course a bottom 5 team isn’t going to have the best 4th line. Like Alfie11 said, the best 4th line is tampas and it isn’t close. I don’t like Tampa at all but it’s still not hard for me to agree they have the best 4th line.


If you read correctly, i wrote "one of the best"
Which i will still stand by
 
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