There probably isn’t anyone. The only roster player ottawa would move would be Formenton but he can’t be moved rn. Or maybe Brannstrom but that’s not enough

Girard can play RD like Theodore and Brodie

Who needs Kadri when you can sign a 30 goal scoring elite 2C like Galchenyuk for league min

Oh his C days are long behind him. Hes more of a LW PP specialist

Still kind of surprised hes not in the KHL rn

Looks like he was a winger for a while but he took over 400 faceoffs last year

plus he was a C when he scored 30

K I think Ive come up with something interesting

If he is proven innocent

Ottawa sends 2023 1st + Formenton + Brannstrom to Colorado for Girard if not Brannstrom then Docker next offseason

Colorado gets another 2-way speedy specialist and a young Dman to replace Girard on the third pair while Ottawa gets a Dman that can play both sides.

Yeah that's pretty much the package that Sens fans have come up with as well, although typically as the base for Chychrun (I've been pushing Girard for a while, but he's less likely to move than Chychrun and we can't dump Zaitsev to Colorado, which makes him the #2 option imo). I think including Formenton makes way more sense than a pure futures package. And Greig makes him expendable.

i wouldnt touch formenton with a 10 ft poll until the hockey canada stuff is sorted out.

LOL 12.6 for Mackinnon is hilarious

No chance he didn't do that just to poke fun at McDavid.

If he didn’t win a cup last season, I think he would have taken a contract in the 10-10.5 mill AAV range. Now that he has the cup money was the priority. Let the team figure out how to navigate

It could also be that 12.6M is exactly 2x his previous 6.3M AAV

Nah it was for the lulz

Thats why I mentioned until proven innocent

Team friendly? More like Cap Friendly

i got a bad feeling about formenton but time will tell.

@csick @claesson4norris

Reading (between?) the lines, it seems like they don’t expect Formenton back any time soon, so Motte will start at 3LW. And Gambrell unfortunately seems to have the inside track at 4C over Kastelic. Kelly starting at 4LW isn’t that surprising, but he’s probably the guy pushed out if Formenton signs. Also seems like Sanderson will get stuck with Hamonic. Team Alfie might be the best (1st and 4th lines, 3rd and 4th D pairs), but Team Phillips is the most interesting for sure, there’s definitely the highest chance that the surprise of camp comes out of that group (Kastelic, Sokolov, Reinhardt, or Crookshank could earn games, Hamara and Thomson will be intriguing to watch).

What do you mean? Galchenyuk showed 2 years ago that he can absolutely be an elite (AHL) 2C.

(In honesty he is absolutely atrocious at C, but in the AHL they expect less, so he’s fine playing C there)

Flyers to finish last +1100
Flyers over/under: 77.5 pts (-110 for under)

The under on points seems like free money, I have no idea why the line is that high. No Ellis, Couturier is still hurt, Farabee is hurt, TDA’s not that good, both Frost and Laughton are starting in the top 6 with Hayes as the 1C, the backup to Hart is Felix Sandstrom… like this is probably worse than last year’s 61 point team and most of the rest of the East is better to boot. Anyone have a reason to not put a couple hundred on them finishing last lol? The only thing I can come up with is that Arizona doesn’t even have the hope of a good player returning from injury, but they’re in pretty much the same boat for me, although there’s more young talent on Arizona lol. I would take Patrick Kane alone over the entire Flyers lineup honestly. Especially if Sanheim or Konecny get moved

i won't take the flyers to finish last. arizona has got to be the front runner for that.

allegedly the flyers players were put on notice recently and they have a new coach coming in too. i wouldn't be surprised if they started strong. the flyers obviously don't have to roster to maintain a strong season but i'm going to write them off completely.

k fine AHL C, NHL LW PP specialist

Some more pre-season betting stuff:

It’s crazy that Lehner is tied for the 10th best odds to win the Vezina when he’s out for the season lmao

The points lines seem super weird for a bunch of teams:
Kraken (81.5) - they improved, but 21.5 points? Bjorkstrand and Burakovsky aren’t that good and they’re down Giordano
Flyers (77.5) - lol they suck
Coyotes (65.5) - wouldn’t be shocked to see them fail to reach 60 again as they tank for Bedard
Blackhawks (66.5) - same as the Coyotes, minus the again, they’re much worse than the 68 point team from last year (the only hope would be a Mrazek bounce back, but if that happens he’ll get traded lol)
Hurricanes (102.5) - they had 116 points last year and are arguably better?? I know Patches is out for most of the season, but they’re still the favourite in the Metro imo, Burns should be at least as good as DeAngelo in that system, losing Trocheck is a bummer but they’ve got Stastny and Kase, plus Jarvis should be better, and there’s plenty of room for Kotkaniemi and/or Necas to improve. I feel like they’d need 2 major injuries to not eclipse this (like Aho+Andersen lol)

It’s a shame Vegas is the home of gambling and thus all the VGK lines are nuts, because the team was my dark horse President’s Trophy winner (like, they probably shoulda been ~12th favourite at best) prior to the Lehner injury, and even now with no goalies, they’re still the T-6th favourite for the President’s Trophy and 8th favourite for the cup lmao. Their points line (97.5) is actually pretty reasonable though. It’s a little crazy that they’re T-6th favourite for the President’s Trophy with the T-11th highest points line though, just shows how nuts Vegas betting guys are (can’t bet against winning the President’s trophy/the cup, so they make those lines less appealing in the case either does happen, knowing they’ll get a lot of bets for it anyway, then make the points line reasonable because it can be bet either way)

Arizona is the frontrunner for sure, but Philly shouldn’t be 5th imo. I’d have them top 4 in the running for last at the very least, arguably 2nd as long as Kane is a Blackhawk. I just don’t think that the Flyers have the roster to start strong no matter how hard they try lol, not to mention all their good players seem cursed. Vibes are terrible in Philadelphia honestly

I say Chicago will be last

My prediction for top 5

1. Chicago - Bedard
2. Arizona -Michkov
3. Philadelphia - Fantilli
4. Montreal - Yager
5. SJS - Allen

I’m definitely thinking flyers under 77 is a awesome bet, but after a second thought, my gut screams they will never finish last.

Arizona and Chicago are just too stubborn.
Arizona is EVENTUALLY going to sell some major pieces sooner rather than later; IE before the seasons end. Chicago is Chicago and they’re arguably just as bad as Arizona - with even larger potential trade chips.

I don’t see a world where Arizona AND Chicago both CHOOSE to finish with more points than last year, because if they do finish with more points; that’s going come down to management not selling the farm. Which would be catastrophic to their organizations to not finish 1 or 2 in pick odds.

Flyers under is free money I agree, but Flyers last is lost money.

Anyone have the Stars' full training camp roster? I keep getting a security warning when I try to click the link on NHL.com