If teams made intra-divisional trades -- particularly among similar playoff contenders -- I'd give you Alex Iafallo, Sean Walker and our 2023 third-round draft pick for him. But that won't happen.

Toronto should give you Alex Kerfoot, Rasmus Sandin and their 2023 first for him.

Only way Hanifin would be moved to LAK or TOR is for Adrian Kempe or William Nylander. Flames would be looking to upgrade their Top-6 Forwards by moving Hanifin. They'd have little interest in another D-Man (unless it's an upgrade like Ekblad or Chychrun), Non-Top-6 Forwards, Goaltenders or Picks

Hanifin might have half the value of Nylander tho

I share your sentiments about moving Hanifin. Don't want to break up the band, but wonder if another Top-6 Forward or Chychrun might get us further through the Playoffs and wonder how much he'll want to re-sign & stay in CGY for. I probably shouldn't paint them all with the same brush, but after the recent experiences with other American Free Agents (Gaudreau & Tkachuk) I wonder how loyal he'll be to CGY, so that's a consideration as well. (Yes, I worry about Coronato for the same reasons, so would even consider trading him too)

It would have to be a no brainer trade for it to happen this season, otherwise I think the decision gets made next off-season if he won't re-sign a Team Friendly extension. If he has another Good Year, he'll be wanting $7mil/yr+, but on that same note, his Trade Value will have increased as well, so he'll certainly be a Valuable Trade Chip

That's Hilarious. Thanks for that!

The Kings trade is pretty bad for the Flames, Toronto gives up so much more value.

This unfortunately is what I kind of figured, I think that he is a great piece to bring in a really really good middle six player but he may lack the value on his own to bring in a top end scorer on a contract that the Flames could fit. As discussed above the Nylander's, Kempe's etc. etc.

Why is that trade so bad for the Flames? You get the desired top-6 forward who would probably be your best defensive forward off the bat and is signed for 3 seasons at a reasonable price, a proven quality bottom-pairing RD who allows you to move Zadorov back to his natural side and sit Connor Mackey, and $2.5 million in cap space for two more players to fill out a full 23-man roster. I can understand your declining the offer, but to characterize it as "pretty bad" seems like an overstatement to me. The OP's premise, remember, is that you decide to move Hanifin now (a mistake, in my opinion).

Iafallo isn't more top 6 or an improvement over Coleman, Backlund. Even without Hanifin (who missed the whole season with a major injury), the D-Core looks like

Weegar-Andersson
Kylington-Tanev
Zadorov-Stone/Valimaki/Mackey

A 6th defenseman and a 3rd-line checking forward doesn't fill the void left by top pairing Hanifin.

Backlund is a center, so the attempted comparison there fails. As to Coleman, Iafallo had more points in fewer games in a down year (for him) and is twice the defender Coleman will ever be, and is almost 20% cheaper, so the idea that Iafallo isn't an improvement is kinda puzzling. (Iafallo also had more points than Dube, who would be the other, true comparison.)

As I said, it's perfectly reasonable to decline the offer, but to characterize it as "pretty bad" is an error in evaluation, especially if the main issue is Iafallo vs. Coleman (who is three years older and signed for two seasons more, until he is 35).

Backlund, Coleman and Dube > Iafallo, especially when you compare their ATOI:

Backlund 12G+27A=39PTS/82GP = 0.48PPG with 17:07ATOI of which 2:01 was on the PK (his GA/60 was 7.6) and 1:26 on the PP
Coleman 16G+17A=33PTS/81GP = 0.41PPG with 14:49ATOI of which 1:29 was on the PK (his GA/60 was 4.0) and 0:18 on the PP
Dube 18G+14A=32PTS/80GP = 0.41PPG with just 12:50ATOI of which 0:48 was on the PK (his GA/60 was 5.5) and 0:50 on the PP

Iafallo 17G+20A=37PTS/80GP = 0.47PPG with 18:30ATOI of which 1:38 was on the PK (his GA/60 was 9.3) and 2:45 on the PP

With 25% more Ice Time than Coleman (most of which was PP time) and playing in their Top-6, I'd expect Iafallo to have way more points than Coleman. Iafallo had 45% more ice time and 3 times the PP time Dube had too. Another way these 2 Flames players have more impact than Iafallo is Dube's twice as Physical, but Coleman is substantially = 3x more Physical with his Forechecking.

I expect Dube to have a Breakout Season if given 14:00-16:00ATOI. I also expect Coleman to be much better in his 2nd Season with the Flames, as he traditionally takes a while to get comfortable and familiar with his new team and had a slow start this season. If we needed or wanted another Left Shot Forward, I think we'd just bring up Jakob Pelletier or simply sign either Victor Rask for < 1/4 or Sonny Milano for less than 1/2 of Iafallo's Cap Hit.

So long story short, Iafallo wouldn't be an upgrade or help us at all, neither would a 3rd Round Pick and I doubt Sean Walker is any better than Michael Stone or Nicolas Meloche, so there's nothing there to help or convince the Flames to give up their 1LD and Former 5th Overall Pick in Noah Hanifin when they need a 0.80-1.00PPG+ Top-6 C or RW, ideally with a Right Shot, which we may already have in Toffoli, but a 2nd Right Shot Sniper (like William Nylander or much cheaper Victor Arvidsson) would be nice OR a Centre (like Nick Schmaltz), so we can move Lindholm back to RW again

The reason Nylander might work is because TOR needs Cap Space, so this Trade would improve their Defense and solve that problem, but like the LAK, who also need Cap Space, they could & should simply move Kerfoot out to sign Sandin and be Cap Compliant and LAK should simply move Walker out to sign Durzi.

I think moving Hanifin is stupid. It's like when everyone was trying to get Pesce from Carolina a couple years back. Calgary should sell high on Kylington if anyone, Hanifin is far too well rounded to move

KingofRnR and Lede_And_Dairy are 100% right. Regardless of what fans would do. we understand the Leafs would like to just HAVE hanafin. Here is what we know, TML does want Hanafin, and they have reportedly kicked tires on Dube in the past. A couplet hinges come to mind with that. 1) As it is now, they have to already make room if they want to sign Sandin, bringing in what could arguably be thier top D man, they would have to move one out. I think we all agree there. Two things, if they are interested in winger that makes 2.3M, with thier cap situation and bringing in a D man, it is obvious that Dube would act as a replacement (even not a full one) for someone, that would have to make allot more for the buck. So I thin you would be looking at a Hanafin+Dube for a T6+D Man. IF a trade would happen, and I mean IF, because Flames would not move a young top end D for fun and would only be for a proven T6 and would also have to act as helping TML with salary problems.....the only way a deal I think would happen would be a Nylander+Sandin,Liligren or even very fun dark horse, Giordano. Again, we are in GM mode with Salary Caps on, lol. So TML may feel like they are overpaying, but it is a pretty fair deal, add the fact that Calgary is taking on about 2M more in salary, that counts as an asset right now which we are forgetting. Every dollar that the salary exchange goes in one way or the other, affects the leverage for the deal.