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Mar. 22, 2023 at 8:03 a.m.
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I think fans are always too hard on coaches, especially on playing young players. I think understanding among fans has greatly improved in the ability to notice and understand how underlying processes and flows -- 5v5 play vs powerplay production, expected goals, etc. -- impacts the final score and who wins. I think that all of us, even those who played at relatively high levels, still do not understand very well the level beneath that of individual skills and fits into systems. I think thats why its easy for us to see McMichael last year or Mantha this year have great xG% and complain that they aren't getting time, meanwhile coaches and players care much much more on for example how well a winger performs on the half-wall on breakouts. While I understand and generally agree with the sentiment of "play young guys who might be good instead of old guys you know aren't good" I also think that development isn't linear and that throwing in young guys who aren't ready for it can form bad long-term habits if they are constantly getting caved in -- look at guys recently like Colin White and Ty Smith, even guys like Ristolainen, Bjugstad, Jenner who have had stable NHL careers arguably were thrown into the fire way too early and suffered for it (I think you could make a very good argument for Fehervary being one of those guys!!!!). There was an interesting quote from Rasmus Andersson last week giving an actual NHL player's perspective on it too (https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/its-a-learning-process-for-everyone-flames-andersson-on-young-players-being-scratched/).

I would love to see guys like Protas or McMichael get looks over Sheary, Smith, NAK, etc. especially given we are not in the playoff race anymore. That being said, there's a whole lot we as fans don't really understand, and I would not criticize too much coaches whose job it is to win games -- not develop prospects -- for playing vets.


Great point here, and you could certainly add Wilson to that list of guys thrown into the fire too early as well.
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Mar. 22, 2023 at 8:14 a.m.
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That game was certainly one of the most chaotic games I've ever been to, kind of the best outcome for the team in terms of lottery. Couple notes I had:

-Jensen is elite, Norris winner soon...

-Sheary-Dowd-Protas is so much better as a line than Sheary-Dowd-NAK. Protas was all over the ice last night and he's gotten a lot better at starting breakouts and working into the offensive zone. He may have been a very late addition to the lineup last night, but he sure didn't play like it.

-In fact, I felt all 4 lines worked very well in the offensive zone, especially Mantha-Kuznetsov-Smith. Mantha showed he plays well with more ice time, Kuznetsov was pretty decent defensively, Smith was a great forechecker for that line, all 3 came together to have a good game last night. Milano-Backstrom-Oshie was an amazing playmaking line, the Backstrom to Milano goal was brilliant. Ovi-Strome-Wilson should not be tampered with.

-Lindgren was, how shall I say it, rough. A lot of the goals were pretty clearly on him, lots of leaky garbage. Couple defensive plays, including one where Jensen couldn't get off the ice despite clearly laboring in the corner, weren't helpful to him but most of it was on bad positioning or failure to fully control a shot.

-Alexeyev with Fehervary has been pretty decent so far, Alexeyev is also developing his offense well. I hope to see this pair continue to get increased ice time.
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Mar. 22, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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I saw the highlights of the game so I’m gonna give some thoughts.

Lindgern didn’t have his best night. Some of those were brutal but whatever.

Jensen is better than Cale Makar

Sandin had a nice battle to that lead to the Sheary goal.

And that’s all.


Milano goal was sick.

Ovi got lucky
Mar. 22, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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I saw the highlights of the game so I’m gonna give some thoughts.

Lindgern didn’t have his best night. Some of those were brutal but whatever.

Jensen is better than Cale Makar

Sandin had a nice battle to that lead to the Sheary goal.

And that’s all.


Milano goal was sick.

Ovi got lucky


Nah, that was a good play by Ovi. I can't say he was aiming at the defenseman's stick but that would have been a great pass and a goal even without the defenseman's stick there.
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Mar. 22, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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Anyone feel we pulled the trigger to soon on the Nak extension
Mar. 22, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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Anyone feel we pulled the trigger to soon on the Nak extension


a little but if there's any player type that GMBM has hit 100% on its that one, wouldn't worry too much about it. I also think that if Malenstyn proved he could stay healthy for more than like 5 games NAK wouldn't have been claimed in the first place
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Mar. 23, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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John Carlson is returning tonight,

Damn that’s impressive

Blue line today.

Martin Fer Carlson
Sandin Jensen(inject this is to my veins)
Alexyev TVR

That’s a solid d core
Mar. 23, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.
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Imagine

Milano Strome Keller

Sandin Jensen out on the ice at the same time.

Kinda wish I could replace Milano with Vrana but you can’t rewrite history
Mar. 23, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
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Imagine

Milano Strome Keller

Sandin Jensen out on the ice at the same time.

Kinda wish I could replace Milano with Vrana but you can’t rewrite history


I highly doubt Arizona would even consider moving Keller though
Mar. 23, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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I highly doubt Arizona would even consider moving Keller though


A 2023 10oa pick would be interesting in the mix. It would 100% be a comp to the Debrincat trade a few years ago.
Mar. 23, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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A 2023 10oa pick would be interesting in the mix. It would 100% be a comp to the Debrincat trade a few years ago.


DeBrincat wasn't locked up for the next 5 years though, and Arizona doesn't have a new gm that decided to trade all his young assets.
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Mar. 23, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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Alexyev just sent someone into space
Mar. 23, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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Alexyev just sent someone into space


shades of orlov
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Mar. 24, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
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Crazy to me that Carlson gets so much hate, but just look at the difference between Caps w/ Carlson and w/out. Yes, he makes plenty of mistakes, but he is certainly a top 10 RHD that is very meaningful for the team.
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Mar. 24, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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Crazy to me that Carlson gets so much hate, but just look at the difference between Caps w/ Carlson and w/out. Yes, he makes plenty of mistakes, but he is certainly a top 10 RHD that is very meaningful for the team.


How some giveaways yesterday which is what I think hurts him the most and sometimes is slow other than that tho dude is solid
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Mar. 24, 2023 at 9:29 p.m.
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Crazy to me that Carlson gets so much hate, but just look at the difference between Caps w/ Carlson and w/out. Yes, he makes plenty of mistakes, but he is certainly a top 10 RHD that is very meaningful for the team.


it's insane to me that people talk about guys like Letang and Doughty as some of the best defenseman of all time while Carlson has had basically their exact same careers and consistently gets disrespected by even his own fanbase. A borderline HoF candidate and still a top 10 defenseman in the league
Mar. 25, 2023 at 7:28 a.m.
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it's insane to me that people talk about guys like Letang and Doughty as some of the best defenseman of all time while Carlson has had basically their exact same careers and consistently gets disrespected by even his own fanbase. A borderline HoF candidate and still a top 10 defenseman in the league


Robbed of the Norris in 2020 I believe
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Mar. 25, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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Best thing for us

We can go

Strome
McMike
Backy
Dowd

Then we can move Mantha and kuzy and have enough money for two elite scoring wingers
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Mar. 25, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
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Best thing for us


Strome
McMike
Backy
Dowd

Then we can move Mantha and kuzy and have enough money for two elite scoring wingers

This explains a lot because he hasn’t gave a sh*t in a couple of months or this year for that matter
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
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Tom, Stromer, and Ovi score and we lose, perfect night.


Stromer has really turned it on. 7 points in last 4 games and 20 in last 14
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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This explains a lot because he hasn’t gave a sh*t in a couple of months or this year for that matter


He still turns it on at times but i don’t think I’ve seen him give an effort consistently since 2019. Last year he put up points but didn’t look bought in.

Management has completely lost trust in him and it’s easy to see why. Going to be weird to see him somewhere else and will always be grateful for his run in 2018. It’s time to move on
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
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How awesome was Mantha’s turnover? That is a man who knows how to tank
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 9:08 a.m.
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How awesome was Mantha’s turnover? That is a man who knows how to tank


can't wait to never see this bum play for the caps ever again
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Mar. 26, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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Once we trade Mantha dude is going to pop off again.
Mar. 26, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.
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Once we trade Mantha dude is going to pop off again.


even his best season in detroit i wouldn't describe as "popping off", I think he can go back to being a solid 2nd line winger but it's certainly not happening here
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