Nah. The Sabres held out for Krebs in the eichel trade.

MTL won't be trading a C for yet another winger

Pool party is definitely not worth an elite center prospect

Don't see Buffalo having any interest in moving Krebs right now. He's only played a little over half a season and fits a bigger hole as a center if he can solidify himself as one at the NHL level.

Was originally going to put Middelstadt, but I dont know if that would help either team since he's only 500K less than Jesse rn and doesn't open up a wing spot for Buffalo.
(I also assumed Buffalo ran Krebs on LW, I didn't know he was a C with them).

From what's been said prior to camp it sounds like they plan on playing Krebs at center more this season and having Mittelstadt play on the wing at least a little bit. Krebs was mostly played on the wing in the NHL last season but in the AHL they had him at center and long term they've still stuck to saying they see him as a center in the NHL. Granato wants the forwards to be flexible, especially the centers and to be able to play either center or on the wing.

HABS Accept. Plenty of young centers coming up soon

Detroit would rather have Zadina. Pass.

I think the Sabers depending on how Middlestadt plays this season with determine his future with the team they might do it as a change of scenery trade latter in the season

I could see Jesse slotting in at the 2nd-3rd line on MTL for a long time, it doesn't seem like they have an abundance of good RW's, just LW's (though I know a few of their players can flex between the two positions).
Evans also isn't an integral part of the MTL rebuild nor really fits their timeline IMO, Jesse does.

I'm curious why you'd say no to that?

Not a trade Anaheim would consider

Sabres dont have a need for Puljujarvi. And Krebs has way more value to Buffalo than that

Lmao these suck.
Lundestrom is one of Anaheim's best young players, and they just extended him.
Wings just extended Zadina and he's primed to have a good season .
Don't know much about Evans but Habs fans aren't happy with it.
Tolvanen is better than Puljujarvi.
Buffalo held out in the Eichel trade for Krebs, they won't trade him for a third liner.

JP is in most Edmonton ACGMs is it what fans want or is Edmonton actively trying to trade him?

There are rumours he's still being shopped, I think that's why most of us have him on our ACGM.

I think it's also just enjoyable to shop him on ACGM lol
He seems polarizing since some people value him highly due to his high ceiling and how his advanced stats look; where as some think hes worth less than a 3rd cause McDavid inflates his stats and he skates weird.

@PurpleHippo
Over his last 37 games 24 yo Jesse (AVV $3,000,000) had 4 goals, 9 assists for 13 pts.
Over his last 46 games 21 yo Payton (AVV $863,334) has 7 goals, 15 assists for 22 pts.
Three years younger, playing a team whose GF was near the bottom of NHL (58 fewer than EDM) has 50% more points at about ¼ the salary. Please tell me why you think Buffalo would even consider this trade.

For the Kreb's trade a pick would need to be added by Edmonton to make the trade fair, this was again under the assumption that Kreb's was a LW for Buffalo.
Playing him at C changes a lot, if Buffalo sees him as one of the 3 rotated in your top 3 C's I wouldn't see a point in moving him at all.

Originally the idea with the Krebs trade was Buffalo gets a good 2 way wing plus an early pick (was thinking the 2024 1st, top 10 protected) to replace a younger skilled winger still on ELC.
Buffalo has a lot of very skilled players coming up, but it can raise an issue of paying them (since skilled players in general get more money) and worrying about your own end (ex. Krebs is cheaper rn but wont be come contract time, Jesse will likely be a 4.5M player IMO).

This is also just a forum to discuss trades, it's interesting seeing peoples takes and how they see certain players slotting into their teams.

I agree, it is interesting to read how teams value their players.
Depending on how well some of the prospects develop (almost too many, Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund and Ruotsalainen are just the center prospects who may find NHL jobs), Buffalo may trade a forward for a RHD.
I may be the only Sabre ACGM who has considered a trade for Barrie.
I do not envision the Oilers and Sabres as trade partners.

I'm a big an of Evans personally, and it's not that I wouldn't want JP. Evans contract is essentially perfect for the time being and he plays with a ton of heart. I'm saying no on the premise that we are already loaded up with players on the wing while we are only now coming around to having decent and serviceable centres.

I'd gladly trade for JP but we need to move out the wingers we already have and I believe the idea is to try to raise their value this season by having them play big minutes in the hopes of production improvements. Guys like Hoffman, Dadanov, Drouin, Armia, etc need to come off the roster if we're going to be in the market for wingers.

That's true, I guess this could become a more realistic trade in 2023-24 when MTL gains a few winger spots and some more cap space.

Sabres wouldn’t do that
Krebs was a “must have” piece in the Eichel trade,
& a big reason that Vegas got him & not another team

Maybe we’d give a 2nd for Puljujarvi, MAYBE

Mitts for Puljujarvi MIGHT work,
tough to say though
I’d lean “no” bc Mitts can play center & has looked pretty good when healthy
I don’t think we’re ready to move on from him

I need to send you an apology.
When you proposed Puljujarvi and a first for Krebs, I hesitated to agree as I presumed many Sabre ACGM's would rail against that move.
On the other hand, this was recently posted: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/639035
In hindsight I should have examined the entire Eichel trade including your recent proposal, Tuch, 2022 first, 2023 second, 2024 first and Puljujarvi for Eichel and 2023 third.
While Puljujarvi has not found his scoring talent, he could be solid 3rd or 4th line RW getting 10 to 12 goals and an addition 25 to 30 pts.
After watching Rosen perform last night, I would have to give a complete thumbs up to Jesse and 2024 protected first for Krebs.