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Created by: dickie_boon
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 16, 2022
Published: Sep. 16, 2022
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franchise legend, one of my favorites
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
2$1,050,000
2$1,250,000
1$775,000
3$1,150,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$6,500,000
Trades
STL
  1. Phillips, Matthew [RFA Rights]
CGY
  1. Kostin, Klim [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 4th round pick (STL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$81,769,166$20,000$400,000$730,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW
RFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
RW, C
RFA
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
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UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
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UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
G
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1

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Sep. 16, 2022 at 1:10 p.m.
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You should know that Matthew Philips does not at all play center
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Sep. 16, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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ROR will get more than $6.5m
Sep. 16, 2022 at 3:09 p.m.
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Bolduc will not be playing C, Snuggs won't be ready and Phillips is about the last person on Earth I'd want to use as a 4C. The guy is microscopic and a full-on offensive player who is a winger now.
Sep. 16, 2022 at 4:41 p.m.
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Bolduc will not be playing C, Snuggs won't be ready and Phillips is about the last person on Earth I'd want to use as a 4C. The guy is microscopic and a full-on offensive player who is a winger now.

How Big or Small do you believe Phillips to be exactly!?

What are your thoughts & feelings on Torey Krug & Scott Perunovich then!?
Sep. 16, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.
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Flames would take that Trade for sure and I can't wait for Phillips to get an opportunity at RW with a Team and hope he becomes a Great Player once given the opportunity. I'm sure he'd sign for $750-850k just to get the chance to prove himself in the NHL
Sep. 16, 2022 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
How Big or Small do you believe Phillips to be exactly!?

What are your thoughts & feelings on Torey Krug & Scott Perunovich then!?


Phillips is about a buck-60, playing the hardest position to play light, especially for an average skater. Krug and Perunovich are more like 175-180. While that is not ideal by me, it's a notable difference and they are plus skaters who use/are learning to use that closing ability to push things wide.
Sep. 16, 2022 at 10:33 p.m.
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Phillips is about a buck-60, playing the hardest position to play light, especially for an average skater. Krug and Perunovich are more like 175-180. While that is not ideal by me, it's a notable difference and they are plus skaters who use/are learning to use that closing ability to push things wide.

He's 5'8 165lbs and plays RW. He's not much smaller than Perunovich and doesn't play his size. Forechecks as if he were 6ft 185lbs+.

Phillips has only been given 1 NHL game where he nearly scored twice. I agree more size is ideal, but this kid hasn't been given a proper chance, so we don't really know what he can do in the NHL. He's proven to be a consistent Top Scorer with other NHL Prospects and Fringe NHL's/Professional Hockey Players, so he deserves a better look before passing negative judgements on him imo
Sep. 16, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
You should know that Matthew Philips does not at all play center


Hell forget center he’s barely even an nhl player if at all
Sep. 17, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
He's 5'8 165lbs and plays RW. He's not much smaller than Perunovich and doesn't play his size. Forechecks as if he were 6ft 185lbs+.

Phillips has only been given 1 NHL game where he nearly scored twice. I agree more size is ideal, but this kid hasn't been given a proper chance, so we don't really know what he can do in the NHL. He's proven to be a consistent Top Scorer with other NHL Prospects and Fringe NHL's/Professional Hockey Players, so he deserves a better look before passing negative judgements on him imo


Uhh all I said was he's the last guy you'd want centering a checking line. I wouldn't ask that guy to play 4C in the AHL, let alone in the NHL. Nobody would, including presumably you.
Sep. 17, 2022 at 12:32 a.m.
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Uhh all I said was he's the last guy you'd want centering a checking line. I wouldn't ask that guy to play 4C in the AHL, let alone in the NHL. Nobody would, including presumably you.

I'd play him wherever he was effective and contributed. Typically the 3rd line is your Checking Line (Shuts & Wears Down Lines 1&2) and the 4th line is your Energy Line (All out bursts, less TOI, so less pacing themselves like the other 3 lines) and many teams are adding fast skilled players rather than just Big Checkers & Enforcers; like 5'9 Nathan Walker for example
Sep. 17, 2022 at 12:48 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 17, 2022 at 3:08 a.m.
Quoting: KingofRnR
I'd play him wherever he was effective and contributed. Typically the 3rd line is your Checking Line (Shuts & Wears Down Lines 1&2) and the 4th line is your Energy Line (All out bursts, less TOI, so less pacing themselves like the other 3 lines) and many teams are adding fast skilled players rather than just Big Checkers & Enforcers; like 5'9 Nathan Walker for example


Walker is a big checker. And a depth player. And the Blues run the 4th line as a checking line. My point was no one would put this guy as a checking line C, which I can't believe should be even slightly controversial.
Sep. 17, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
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Walker is a big checker. And not a depth player. And the Blues run the 4th line as a checking line. My point was no one would put this guy as a checking line C, which I can't believe should be even slightly controversial.

It shouldn't and I'm not even discussing that issue, since we already addressed he's a RW, not a C... My point is who cares how small he is, until he's been given a fair opportunity, all we can do is make guesses & assumptions. I'd play him at 2RW personally, but give him a chance and just play him to see what he has to provide. Might surprise you and can't do much worse than Kostin or Toropchenko did for STL last season
Sep. 17, 2022 at 3:13 a.m.
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It shouldn't and I'm not even discussing that issue, since we already addressed he's a RW, not a C... My point is who cares how small he is, until he's been given a fair opportunity, all we can do is make guesses & assumptions. I'd play him at 2RW personally, but give him a chance and just play him to see what he has to provide. Might surprise you and can't do much worse than Kostin or Toropchenko did for STL last season


Setting aside that I think you're drastically overrating his ceiling, the Blues have three of the best scoring RWs in the league. He'd have less than zero shot of a top 9 role, and is entirely unsuited for a checking role. Not interested.
Sep. 17, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
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Setting aside that I think you're drastically overrating his ceiling, the Blues have three of the best scoring RWs in the league. He'd have less than zero shot of a top 9 role, and is entirely unsuited for a checking role. Not interested.

Don't forget this post is about next year's team with no more Tarasenko (or Acciari), so yes you have Kyrou and Buchnevich, but what if either went down with injury. You'd be left with a kid who just turned 19 in Snuggerud, who won't' be NHL ready like the poster has proposed and Toropchenko + Kostin if the Trade for Phillips doesn't go through who neither have proven to be very good. Could go with Martin Frk who can definitely score, but is weak defensively. Anyways, it's a toss up, but I'm just saying Phillips would be good depth and if given the opportunity may impress more than the other RW's you have, not counting your Top 2
Oct. 2, 2022 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
It shouldn't and I'm not even discussing that issue, since we already addressed he's a RW, not a C... My point is who cares how small he is, until he's been given a fair opportunity, all we can do is make guesses & assumptions. I'd play him at 2RW personally, but give him a chance and just play him to see what he has to provide. Might surprise you and can't do much worse than Kostin or Toropchenko did for STL last season


BTW Phillips was put on waivers today.
Oct. 2, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.
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BTW Phillips was put on waivers today.

Doesn’t surprise me. Sutter’s not going to him a fair chance. Hopefully he gets claimed and another Team gives him a proper chance. He played much better than Sonny Milano.

https://flamesnation.ca/news/flames-assign-nine-players-to-wranglers-place-five-on-waivers
 
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