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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 8, 2022
Published: Sep. 17, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$925,000
2$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,125,000
3$2,750,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$925,000
2$1,250,000
4$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,250,000
2$875,000
7$9,000,000
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Bedard, Connor
3$925,000
Trades
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MTL
    Jason Zucker (2022-23 Offseason)
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    1. 2024 4th round pick (BUF)
    2. 2025 5th round pick (BUF)
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    MTL
    1. 2025 4th round pick (PHI)
    PHI
    1. Savard, David ($1,750,000 retained)
    4.
    MTL
    1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [RFA Rights]
    2. Salminen, Samu [Reserve List]
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
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    Roster

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    $925,000$925,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 7
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    $3,362,500$3,362,500
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    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
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    $925,000$925,000
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    RFA - 3
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    $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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    RFA - 2
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    $1,700,000$1,700,000
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    UFA - 2
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
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    UFA - 4
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    UFA - 3
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
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    $3,250,000$3,250,000
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    UFA - 2
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
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    $3,250,000$3,250,000
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    UFA - 2
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    $875,000$875,000
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    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
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    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000
    G
    RFA - 2
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    $762,500$762,500
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    UFA - 1
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    Sep. 17, 2022 at 5:47 a.m.
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    Armia doesn't have positive value. Why give up on Primeau? That Weegar contract will age really poorly as the Habs continue to not be a playoff team for the next 3-5 years
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 5:47 a.m.
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    Devils decline, with prejudice.
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    Sep. 17, 2022 at 5:55 a.m.
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    No idea what the ask was when the Anderson trade rumours were swirling this offseason. But the Habs are really going to regret not ditching that contract when they had the chance.
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    Sep. 17, 2022 at 6:48 a.m.
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    The answer was no before even seeing what the Devils gave up for Anderson.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Armia doesn't have positive value. Why give up on Primeau? That Weegar contract will age really poorly as the Habs continue to not be a playoff team for the next 3-5 years


    Armia has positive value for sure, one season doesn’t rank a players value. That Weegar deal will be fine, 7 years for one of the best Dmen in the league, 28 years old. Habs will be a playoff team within 2 years. This isn’t giving up on Primeau, it’s adding to what we have, Allen won’t be around long.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    The answer was no before even seeing what the Devils gave up for Anderson.


    Yeah Devils likely give more than that. I was staying on the conservative side.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: MellowK
    No idea what the ask was when the Anderson trade rumours were swirling this offseason. But the Habs are really going to regret not ditching that contract when they had the chance.



    According to Friedman he’s a prime target for many teams and he will fetch a great return, but Habs don’t want to move him just yet.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: Tintin
    Devils decline, with prejudice.


    No you would decline.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:25 a.m.
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    According to Friedman he’s a prime target for many teams and he will fetch a great return, but Habs don’t want to move him just yet.


    Keep drinking it up. We want nothing to do with him.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Keep drinking it up. We want nothing to do with him.


    You’re a fan. Quit acting like you know what your teams idiot GM wants.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    Armia has positive value for sure, one season doesn’t rank a players value. That Weegar deal will be fine, 7 years for one of the best Dmen in the league, 28 years old. Habs will be a playoff team within 2 years. This isn’t giving up on Primeau, it’s adding to what we have, Allen won’t be around long.


    Gonna have to completely disagree with this entire thing.

    Armia has never been worth that much, he's a borderline replacement level player. I would rather have Compher and he sucks too.

    The Habs are no where near being a playoff team, it takes quite a few years after a rebuild to be competitive. The Oilers are only now becoming a contender and they've had the vest player in the world for 7 years. jack Hughes is going into his 4th season and they are still probably 3-4 years out from truely contending. Even the Black Hawks took a while considering Keith, Seabrook, and Crawford were drafted in 02 and 03.

    Not to mention Weegar is apparently close to signing an 8 year extension with Calgary so he simply won't hit the market
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:35 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Gonna have to completely disagree with this entire thing.

    Armia has never been worth that much, he's a borderline replacement level player. I would rather have Compher and he sucks too.

    The Habs are no where near being a playoff team, it takes quite a few years after a rebuild to be competitive. The Oilers are only now becoming a contender and they've had the vest player in the world for 7 years. jack Hughes is going into his 4th season and they are still probably 3-4 years out from truely contending. Even the Black Hawks took a while considering Keith, Seabrook, and Crawford were drafted in 02 and 03.

    Not to mention Weegar is apparently close to signing an 8 year extension with Calgary so he simply won't hit the market


    “I would rather..” what you would rather doesn’t matter. When are you going to realize that?
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    “I would rather..” what you would rather doesn’t matter. When are you going to realize that?


    That's all you got from this? Seems it was a waste of time discussing anything with you since logical thinking is too hard for you to grasp
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    You’re a fan. Quit acting like you know what your teams idiot GM wants.


    Our "idiot" GM...okay bud lol. MTL waiting around to trade Anderson for a better deal as cap room is disappearing around the league AND Montreal should have dealt everything away by now to best situate themselves for Bedard....but yes...Fitz is the idiot.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    Our "idiot" GM...okay bud lol. MTL waiting around to trade Anderson for a better deal as cap room is disappearing around the league AND Montreal should have dealt everything away by now to best situate themselves for Bedard....but yes...Fitz is the idiot.


    Teams will make room, Habs can take back money. Trades happen, GM’s find ways lol. You don’t have to like a player for said player to have value.. GM’s love certain players whether fans do or not and you need to realize that.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    Teams will make room, Habs can take back money. Trades happen, GM’s find ways lol. You don’t have to like a player for said player to have value.. GM’s love certain players whether fans do or not and you need to realize that.


    And you also have to realize how many rumors are put out there that come to nothing, whether fans like it or not. That Anderson does not fit the Devils needs as they are loaded at wing options. Go elsewhere.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    That's all you got from this? Seems it was a waste of time discussing anything with you since logical thinking is too hard for you to grasp


    Listening to fans tell me what GM’s are thinking, or acting as if their feelings toward a player is shared by GM’s around the league is annoying.. I said Armia for a 4th and a 5th not Armia for a 1st or 2nd.. he is absolutely the type of player GM’s for whatever reason, tend to be in love with. Big, plays big, good defensively, has another gear in the playoffs etc. it’s a bottom 6 forward for late round picks.. is it really that out of the realm of possibility that it needs to be argued? It’s really not.
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 7:55 a.m.
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    Quoting: NJDevils1317
    And you also have to realize how many rumors are put out there that come to nothing, whether fans like it or not. That Anderson does not fit the Devils needs as they are loaded at wing options. Go elsewhere.


    Sure it could come to nothing, but this isn’t me claiming this deal will happen, could it happen? Something similar is possible. This is legit just me making an armchair GM for fun..
    Sep. 17, 2022 at 8:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    Listening to fans tell me what GM’s are thinking, or acting as if their feelings toward a player is shared by GM’s around the league is annoying.. I said Armia for a 4th and a 5th not Armia for a 1st or 2nd.. he is absolutely the type of player GM’s for whatever reason, tend to be in love with. Big, plays big, good defensively, has another gear in the playoffs etc. it’s a bottom 6 forward for late round picks.. is it really that out of the realm of possibility that it needs to be argued? It’s really not.


    Yes it is because he he is a 4th liner payed like a middle 6 forward for the next 3 years. As a rental or retained sure he could probably be moved but as of right now he is purely a cap dump
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    Sep. 17, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.
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    Pens decline. They’d rather just get out of the contract after this year rather than taking on another bad cap hit for multiple years. Zucker probably has more value than Hoffman anyways. While Zucker has been unlucky at finishing the past couple years, at least he does everything else well. Hoffman is only good at one thing and lately he hasn’t even been that great at it.
    You’ll have to pay to get other teams to take on cap dumps like Armia and Anderson. Especially not teams like Buffalo and New Jersey who are still rebuilding or are taking the 1st steps of getting close to contending. Philly also doesn’t pay to take on Savard. Savard has more value to a contender in desperate need of a RD
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Yes it is because he he is a 4th liner payed like a middle 6 forward for the next 3 years. As a rental or retained sure he could probably be moved but as of right now he is purely a cap dump


    4th liners don’t put up 23 and 30 points in 50 some games very often.. maybe you need to reevaluate what a 4th liner is. He’s a 3rd liner and he’s paid like one.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
    Pens decline. They’d rather just get out of the contract after this year rather than taking on another bad cap hit for multiple years. Zucker probably has more value than Hoffman anyways. While Zucker has been unlucky at finishing the past couple years, at least he does everything else well. Hoffman is only good at one thing and lately he hasn’t even been that great at it.
    You’ll have to pay to get other teams to take on cap dumps like Armia and Anderson. Especially not teams like Buffalo and New Jersey who are still rebuilding or are taking the 1st steps of getting close to contending. Philly also doesn’t pay to take on Savard. Savard has more value to a contender in desperate need of a RD


    Zucker can’t even stay on the ice for more than 20 games, and when he’s on the ice he’s been brutal, just a terrible fit in Pittsburgh. Hoffman would be a great fit, they had a terrible power play last year and he’s a pp specialist. Also saves them a mill in cap space. Seems realistic enough to me.
    Sep. 18, 2022 at 6:11 a.m.
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    Zucker can’t even stay on the ice for more than 20 games, and when he’s on the ice he’s been brutal, just a terrible fit in Pittsburgh. Hoffman would be a great fit, they had a terrible power play last year and he’s a pp specialist. Also saves them a mill in cap space. Seems realistic enough to me.


    Tell us you don’t watch the pens without telling us you don’t watch the pens. Zucker has not been brutal when he plays. He literally does everything else well but scoring. His stats say so, his JFresh hockey card says so. Whereas, Hoffman just flat out stinks. The pens weren’t terrible on the powerplay last year. The were over 20%. And that’s without Crosby and Malkin for the first chunk of the season and Malkin for half the season. Montreal on the other hand was second to last last year even with this supposed pp specialist.
    Hoffman wouldn’t even play on the powerplay. He’s replacing Zucker who didn’t really play much on the power play lol. And the pens save a whopping 1 million this year but get stuck with 4.5 million the following year when they need the space more. I don’t know if you realized but free agency is over. Not to mention he would be on a line with Malkin who is already not the greatest defensively. Malkin needs wingers who are defensively responsible and Hoffman is not that. I get you want to put sprinkles on your dog crap but at the end of the day it’s still dog crap and at best this trade is just trading our dog crap for yours.
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 1:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
    Tell us you don’t watch the pens without telling us you don’t watch the pens. Zucker has not been brutal when he plays. He literally does everything else well but scoring. His stats say so, his JFresh hockey card says so. Whereas, Hoffman just flat out stinks. The pens weren’t terrible on the powerplay last year. The were over 20%. And that’s without Crosby and Malkin for the first chunk of the season and Malkin for half the season. Montreal on the other hand was second to last last year even with this supposed pp specialist.
    Hoffman wouldn’t even play on the powerplay. He’s replacing Zucker who didn’t really play much on the power play lol. And the pens save a whopping 1 million this year but get stuck with 4.5 million the following year when they need the space more. I don’t know if you realized but free agency is over. Not to mention he would be on a line with Malkin who is already not the greatest defensively. Malkin needs wingers who are defensively responsible and Hoffman is not that. I get you want to put sprinkles on your dog crap but at the end of the day it’s still dog crap and at best this trade is just trading our dog crap for yours.


    “Does everything we’ll but scoring” well the Penguins need scoring man. Their power play used to be their biggest strength, they want to contend so I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to improve that and he would most certainly play on the power play. Did yoi not read what I wrote? Their power play was not good enough, you think they want to keep it the same? Btw Malkin played with Kessel when they won their last cup so don’t come at me talking about Pens need defensive players on Malkins wing… They have no issue bringing in a guy who isn’t good defensively. If you don’t think they would want Hoffman, that’s fine, but you gotta come with better reasoning. The only decent reason you’ve given is him having another year on his deal as opposed to Zucker. If they both had 1 year left Penguins do this in a heartbeat, Hoffman is simply the better player at this point. Sometimes the best ability is availability. But even as it is I think they’d consider doing this because at least they get a player who fits what they need for two years instead of 1 with Zucker who can’t stay healthy and brings little offense.
    Sep. 19, 2022 at 10:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: Dom1422
    “Does everything we’ll but scoring” well the Penguins need scoring man. Their power play used to be their biggest strength, they want to contend so I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to improve that and he would most certainly play on the power play. Did yoi not read what I wrote? Their power play was not good enough, you think they want to keep it the same? Btw Malkin played with Kessel when they won their last cup so don’t come at me talking about Pens need defensive players on Malkins wing… They have no issue bringing in a guy who isn’t good defensively. If you don’t think they would want Hoffman, that’s fine, but you gotta come with better reasoning. The only decent reason you’ve given is him having another year on his deal as opposed to Zucker. If they both had 1 year left Penguins do this in a heartbeat, Hoffman is simply the better player at this point. Sometimes the best ability is availability. But even as it is I think they’d consider doing this because at least they get a player who fits what they need for two years instead of 1 with Zucker who can’t stay healthy and brings little offense.


    The pens have Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust, Rakell, even Kapanen and Heinen. Hoffman isn’t even that good at offense. He’s only been a slight upgrade offensively over Zucker the past couple years but a massive downgrade everywhere else. Idk if you know this or not but hockey is about more than just offense. Again you can try to sprinkle your pile of crap all you want but it’s still crap. And what’s your point about Kessel? That was what? 5-6 years ago when both players were in their prime. Malkin was a lot more defensively responsible. But now at his older age, he isn’t as defensively responsible. Not to mention they also would play Hagelin on that line who was amazing defensively to make up for the defense too. But they also had to trade Kessel shortly after that. They would get absolutely torched. So yes they do have a problem bringing in a player who doesn’t play defensively. Sullivan doesn’t use players like that. Kapanen gets scratched all the time cause he stinks defensively and if he isn’t going through a slump offensively he isn’t bringing anything but bad news.
    No you literally spent the first half of your comment discussing the other reason I’ve given. It’s not just because he has an extra year on his contract. It’s because Hoffman sucks at literally everything. Even what he’s supposed to be good at, he’s only a slight upgrade over Zucker. Zucker is a massive upgrade over him everywhere else. There is a reason that Habs fans keep trying to trade us Hoffman for Zucker. It’s because they even know Zucker is the better player lol. So you’re dead wrong that Hoffman is the better player at this point. I understand Habs fans tend to be homers on this site but you’ve gotta look at the whole body of work. If they both only had 1 year left…the pens might do it. But it’s not because hoffman is the better player. It’s because hoffman is the cheaper player. If they could save the 1 million this year and not have to take on an extra 4.5 million next year it’s a different story. But again not because he’s the better player, just the cheaper player. And if the pens not wanting to do the trade is fine, then why are you arguing about it? The pens decline. That is it. It’s that simple. I don’t have to give you any other excuse except they wouldn’t trade a pile of junk for a pile of junk on a longer contract. If that’s not good enough for you then maybe you need to get off this site cause it’s not for you lol
     
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