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Apparently Goaltending Shouldnt Be An Issue When It Comes To Winning Another Cup

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Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 18, 2022
Published: Sep. 18, 2022
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Well That's What The Media Says Anyways... LOL... That's Super Hilarious Because Even In A Regular Season Game... Goaltending Is A Huge Part Of A Team
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
Its a risk, there is no denying that. But from what has been said after the move as made, stuff like the positioning, there has been mention that when Georgiev has increased work load and consistent starts his numbers are better. There must be enough data and enough eye test scouting for the Avs management to see him as a cup contending starter

I wasn't thrilled about the move, but I can get where they were coming from when they did it. I wouldnt have spent the money on Grubauer or Kuemper as it would hurt the avs depth more, taking away from them identity.

There is really like 3 goalies who you can count on. Other than Vasi, Shersterkin and Saros, every other goalie is basically a coin flip at the best of times.


Could add Demko to a short list of goalies that can be counted on.
Sep. 18, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Could add Demko to a short list of goalies that can be counted on.


not really, hes just another one in those batch of not elite, better than average goalies.
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
not really, hes just another one in those batch of not elite, better than average goalies.


He's pretty elite.
Sep. 18, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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wow a lot of people are chiming in on this!
Georgiev has talent and is still young.
his failures with NYR had more to do with Sheskertin than they did with him!
Georgiev is a rhythm netminder and guy like him need consistent playing time to be successful!
he will look better this year!
remember Kiprusoff was horrible behind Nabokov and went to Calgary where he shined! this could very well mirror that situation imo
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
He's pretty elite.


He is not elite, he wasn't even in the top 10 for any statistical category last year and the year before.
Hes good, better than average, not even close to the NHL elite
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
He is not elite, he wasn't even in the top 10 for any statistical category last year and the year before.
Hes good, better than average, not even close to the NHL elite


Pfftt, not even close is a real exaggeration.

Demko is a top 5 goalie easy.
Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.
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For now, this can go with all the astute and not at all over-the-top comments that guaranteed the Avs couldn't win a Cup with Kuemper because he wasn't a "big game" goalie. Fact is, we won't know how Georgiev is really doing until at least the 20 game mark - it took Kuemper that long to adjust to playing with the Avs. The Avs FO is very analytics driven and obviously saw something they believed they could work with at a price they could afford given that they don't like paying goalies big money. It has everything to do with organizational philosophy and how the team is built and plays the game. It will be interesting to see how it works but proclaiming that this approach is already a failure is more than a little premature.
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Pfftt, not even close is a real exaggeration.

Demko is a top 5 goalie easy.


Prove it
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:04 p.m.
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If there’s anyone who will make Georgiev look elite Colorado is it
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:04 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Pfftt, not even close is a real exaggeration.

Demko is a top 5 goalie easy.


OK name your top 5
Sep. 18, 2022 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: coga16
OK name your top 5


Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Demko, Saros and Idk, Sorokin maybe.
#5 is a tough one, Oettinger maybe but that's a small sample size, he definitely looks legit though. I'm a Jets fan but Helle doesn't rank top 5 for me, somewhere in the 6-10 range.
Sep. 18, 2022 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Colorado isn't winning the cup again with that tandem. Even if we wrote off Georgiev's last season to an aberration, he's four seasons removed from league-average goaltending. AVS should have kept Kuemper.


I’m not saying this tandem is the answer but Francouz won 2 series in the playoffs and went 6-0. They have the best d corp in the league and Georgiev isn’t going to start 55 games. @coga16 is right, the Avs aren’t looking for elite goaltending heck they aren’t even looking for top 10 goal tending, but I do think they get league average goal tending at the minimum and with their team that makes them the best team in the west. But that’s my 2 cents
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 2:54 p.m.
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I mean when Colorado won its cup it wasnt on the back of excellent goaltending

Kuemper at times looked lost out there even before the injuries

Francouz also looked alright not really a guy to take you to the finals in a full 3 round set

So then that leaves Georgiev who is probs the guy they hope reaches his potential

But either way they might have set the new narrative for what needs to be done.
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Demko, Saros and Idk, Sorokin maybe.
#5 is a tough one, Oettinger maybe but that's a small sample size, he definitely looks legit though. I'm a Jets fan but Helle doesn't rank top 5 for me, somewhere in the 6-10 range.


How is Hellebuyck below Demko? Hellebuyck has a significantly better GSAx than Demko in each of the past 3 seasons
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Demko, Saros and Idk, Sorokin maybe.
#5 is a tough one, Oettinger maybe but that's a small sample size, he definitely looks legit though. I'm a Jets fan but Helle doesn't rank top 5 for me, somewhere in the 6-10 range.


Is demko a starter yet?
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Sep. 18, 2022 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Demko, Saros and Idk, Sorokin maybe.
#5 is a tough one, Oettinger maybe but that's a small sample size, he definitely looks legit though. I'm a Jets fan but Helle doesn't rank top 5 for me, somewhere in the 6-10 range.


Campbell, Anderson, binnington
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Sep. 19, 2022 at 9:41 a.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
How is Hellebuyck below Demko? Hellebuyck has a significantly better GSAx than Demko in each of the past 3 seasons


Watch as much of Hellebuyck as I have and you'd know why.
Sep. 19, 2022 at 9:42 a.m.
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Is demko a starter yet?


Does a bear **** in the woods?
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