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Ethan bear and Horvat trade

Created by: notaplanet_1556
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 20, 2022
Published: Sep. 20, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. DiPietro, Michael
2.
VAN
  1. Bear, Ethan
Additional Details:
A bit of an over pay but looking at what Dallas gave up for lundkvist. This seems fair, and dermott is to make the cap work.
CAR
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
3.
VAN
  1. Newhook, Alex
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Horvat, Bo
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$76,301,667$1,250,000$2,850,000$6,198,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Boeser, Brock
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Pearson, Tanner
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Newhook, Alex
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptPodkolzin, Vasily
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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Lazar, Curtis
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Höglander, Nils
$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000$5,000,000
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UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Bear, Ethan
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Martin, Spencer
$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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Rathbone, Jack
$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Keeper, Brady
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Joshua, Dakota
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2

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Sep. 20, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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UpsideDownQue
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I wouldnt move Newhook for a rental. Maybe Olausson or Behrens instead if the Avs need a 2C at the deadline
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Sep. 20, 2022 at 2:16 p.m.
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I don't believe the Canes aren't looking to trade a defenseman for a defenseman. Bear will likely be moved to a team for a pick or waiver exempt salary.
Sep. 20, 2022 at 2:21 p.m.
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Habs definitely decline
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Sep. 20, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
I wouldnt move Newhook for a rental. Maybe Olausson or Behrens instead if the Avs need a 2C at the deadline


You aren't getting a 2C if those are the pieces you're offering lol
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Sep. 20, 2022 at 2:42 p.m.
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Quoting: TheAlien
You aren't getting a 2C if those are the pieces you're offering lol


Copp = Morgan Barron + 1st + 2nd
Giroux = Tippett + 1st + 3rd
Dvorak = 1st + 2nd
Reinhart = Levi + 1st
Pageau = 1st + 2nd
Hayes = Lemieux + 1st
Stastny = Foley + 1st

Olausson/Behrens + 1st is in the ballpark
Sep. 20, 2022 at 3:16 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Copp = Morgan Barron + 1st + 2nd
Giroux = Tippett + 1st + 3rd
Dvorak = 1st + 2nd
Reinhart = Levi + 1st
Pageau = 1st + 2nd
Hayes = Lemieux + 1st
Stastny = Foley + 1st

Olausson/Behrens + 1st is in the ballpark


Olausson doesn't make too much sense. We have way too many wingers. Canucks would have to trade 2-3 of their current wingers if Olausson ever makes the team.

Current wingers:
Boeser
Garland
Podkolzin
Kuzmenko
Mikheyev
Hoglander
Pearson

Future wingers:
Lekkerimakki
Klimovich
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Sep. 20, 2022 at 3:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Olausson doesn't make too much sense. We have way too many wingers. Canucks would have to trade 2-3 of their current wingers if Olausson ever makes the team.

Current wingers:
Boeser
Garland
Podkolzin
Kuzmenko
Mikheyev
Hoglander
Pearson

Future wingers:
Lekkerimakki
Klimovich


Yea positionally Olausson and Behrens dont really fit for VAN. Maybe another team with C or RD prospects to move would be interested in Horvat
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Sep. 20, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.
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The Lundkvist trade doesn't increase, let alone affect Bear's trade value. Bear is at a very different point in his career than Lundkvist is
Sep. 20, 2022 at 3:57 p.m.
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Colorado doesn’t even consider that
Sep. 20, 2022 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Yea positionally Olausson and Behrens dont really fit for VAN. Maybe another team with C or RD prospects to move would be interested in Horvat


It's very interesting because I would personally like Olausson in Vancouver. The only question is the "fit" given our roster construction. Keep in mind, Trader Jim & Allvin haven't yet put their stamp on this roster via trade. They're being patient, my guess is due to them believing they could obtain a top 4 RD via trade - and maintain a semi-competitive window, rather than rebuild/retool (the owners would rather burn the arena down than allow another 2-8 years of mediocre hockey).

Horvat is the identity of our team. He bridges the past and the future together. He will most likely remain a Canuck. Aside from sentimental value, the guy can play defensive hockey & also show flashes of excellence in the offensive zone. Horvat would command a lot on the trade market if an extension were negotiated in advance to the move (which is the only way Vancouver would consider moving him)
Sep. 20, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: MikeyG420
It's very interesting because I would personally like Olausson in Vancouver. The only question is the "fit" given our roster construction. Keep in mind, Trader Jim & Allvin haven't yet put their stamp on this roster via trade. They're being patient, my guess is due to them believing they could obtain a top 4 RD via trade - and maintain a semi-competitive window, rather than rebuild/retool (the owners would rather burn the arena down than allow another 2-8 years of mediocre hockey).

Horvat is the identity of our team. He bridges the past and the future together. He will most likely remain a Canuck. Aside from sentimental value, the guy can play defensive hockey & also show flashes of excellence in the offensive zone. Horvat would command a lot on the trade market if an extension were negotiated in advance to the move (which is the only way Vancouver would consider moving him)


Canucks ownership doesn't want mediocrity? How about tanking? Not saying the Canucks need to do that, just speaking hypothetically
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