Edited Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:03 p.m.
Quoting: DevilsFan69
I mean, I’m a devils fan and it’s kinda not a lot to give up for JP. Mcleod and Bastian are both on the grit line, but I think if both Oilers and Devils fans think its great value, then its a fair trade. I think that it def works to improve the devils too 9 and the oilers depth. Holtz-Hughes-Pulj could probably be a great line.
Quoting: pretzelcoatl
McLeod is depth, other than faceoffs he has little utility and it's looking like Boqvist will take his spot. Bastian is very good for a fourth liner, but nowhere near as good as Puljujarvi
JP wasn't projected to return a lot in a Trade anyways, most "experts" said EDM'd be lucky to get a 2nd or 3rd Round Pick for him.
4th line is typically your Short Shift = Energy line, however you chose to use it: Aging Veterans, Hard Checking, High Speed/Intensity Shifts or a Combination of the 3
Michael McLeod is a Defensive Specialist who's substantially better at Faceoffs than Ryan McLeod and Better on the PK too, but having both on a line or PK together would be amazing for the Oilers. One is Right Handed and the other is Left Handed, which gives you options & advantages, especially at the Faceoff Dot. Michael's Giveaway Takeaway Ratio is excellent as well. He's a Great Bottom-6th Depth Player, who could likely put up 15-20 Goals and 0.50PPG+ if he was awarded more time on ice. Pool Party isn't a Top-6 Player with the Oilers anymore either, he's a 3rd liner
Everybody talks about the Great Big Josh Anderson, well what about the Super Cheap Great Big Nathan Bastian!? Let's compare:
Bastian Shot Percentage: 12.4% Goals: 12 (9 Even Strength + 3 PP) ATOI: 11:54TOI Games: 72 Total Playing Time: 757 minutes
Anderson Shot Percentage: 12.6% Goals: 19 (17 Even Strength + 2 PP) ATOI: 17:14TOI Games: 69 Total Playing Time: 1189 minutes (45% more ice time than Bastian)
Pool Party Shot Percentage: 8.8% Goals: 14 (10 Even Strength + 4 PP) ATOI: 16:14 Games: 65 Total Playing Time: 1055 minutes (37% more ice time than Bastian)
Bastian Average Minutes Per Goal: 63.08 Cost Per Goal: $68,750
Anderson Average Minutes Per Goal: 62.58 Cost Per Goal: $289,474
Pool Party Average Minutes Per Goal: 75.36 Cost Per Goal: $83,929
My point is Bastian contributed just as much as Pool Party & Josh Anderson but take in to consideration the quality of line mates and you really should be blown away and amazed. I think Bastian hovering around the net on the PP would be more effective than Pool Party.
If I could get both Michael McLeod and Nathan Bastian in exchange for Pool Party, I'd do it. The Physicality and Utility you get out of these 2 Guys is worth more than 1 Bison King imo and you can always move them up the lineup, which given more TOI and not just being in a Shut Down role, they'll give you more offensive production as well