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Are the Avs prone to an offersheet

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    Would an offersheet around $5.5M or $6M for Byram make it hard for the Avs to match? They could also trade Girard which frees up $5M in cap space. What about a $4.5M contract for Newhook?
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:39 p.m.
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    Avs match any offer for Byram or Newhook
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Avs match any offer for Byram or Newhook


    I've been looking at some Avs ACGMs and even with a Girard or Toews trade or as many league min. contracts and ELCs, it won't be easy matching an offersheet with high $$ and then signing the other
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Avs match any offer for Byram or Newhook


    I've always found it quite odd to speculate about offer sheets this far out. Ince July 1st hits and they aren't signed, speculate away.
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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    Players have to want to sign Offersheet, and there is no reason to think Newhook or Byram would want to sign one.
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    I've been looking at some Avs ACGMs and even with a Girard or Toews trade or as many league min. contracts and ELCs, it won't be easy matching an offersheet with high $$ and then signing the other


    If they both sign contracts tomorrow you're **** out of luck.
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: coga16
    Players have to want to sign Offersheet, and there is no reason to think Newhook or Byram would want to sign one.


    Byram is a local boy, the Canucks are beginning to become competitive, and if the offersheet has sufficient $$ I could see him signing
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    I've been looking at some Avs ACGMs and even with a Girard or Toews trade or as many league min. contracts and ELCs, it won't be easy matching an offersheet with high $$ and then signing the other


    Why would it be difficult after moving Girard lol? Shouldn’t they have like 15-20 million in cap space after that? They can load up on cheap one year deals and they will be fine.
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: GenXHockey
    I've always found it quite odd to speculate about offer sheets this far out. Ince July 1st hits and they aren't signed, speculate away.


    I mean people speculated about Dobson and he probably signed his bridge deal a year ago 😂
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Why would it be difficult after moving Girard lol? Shouldn’t they have like 15-20 million in cap space after that? They can load up on cheap one year deals and they will be fine.


    I meant difficulty matching an offersheet. If lets say Byram gets offersheeted to a $6 or $7 million dollar contract, the Avs wouldn't have an easy time giving what Newhook wants along with filling out the rest of the holes on their roster
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 9:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    I meant difficulty matching an offersheet. If lets say Byram gets offersheeted to a $6 or $7 million dollar contract, the Avs wouldn't have an easy time giving what Newhook wants along with filling out the rest of the holes on their roster


    They don’t have holes. They r the Avs lol. They will be fine.
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    Byram is a local boy, the Canucks are beginning to become competitive, and if the offersheet has sufficient $$ I could see him signing


    local means nothing.
    Not every player wants to play in the hometown

    Also canucks have their own cap issues, they are the last team to playing the offer sheetgame
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    Byram is a local boy, the Canucks are beginning to become competitive, and if the offersheet has sufficient $$ I could see him signing


    As long as Meyers, Miller and OEL are on the books, ya'll aint offer sheeting sheet.
    Byram played Jr there but he really isn't local(who really is in Van). Cranbrook is basically the same flight time to Denver as Van. If you want local, trade for Toews. Byram gets matched all day. Would have to be overpay high for Newhook.
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    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: MeetYourMakar
    As long as Meyers, Miller and OEL are on the books, ya'll aint offer sheeting sheet.
    Byram played Jr there but he really isn't local(who really is in Van). Cranbrook is basically the same flight time to Denver as Van. If you want local, trade for Toews. Byram gets matched all day. Would have to be overpay high for Newhook.


    Myers will be gone in 2 years. OEL has a somewhat friendly buyout if we resort to it. Our cap situation is better than the Avs at the moment. Maybe Canucks can't make it happen, but if another team with a lot of cap space makes a move, then Avs could be in some trouble
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.
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    Myers will be gone in 2 years. OEL has a somewhat friendly buyout if we resort to it. Our cap situation is better than the Avs at the moment. Maybe Canucks can't make it happen, but if another team with a lot of cap space makes a move, then Avs could be in some trouble


    I'll take the Avs cup situation over your better cap situation. Where you can't O.S Byram or Newhook.
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.
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    I'll take the Avs cup situation over your better cap situation. Where you can't O.S Byram or Newhook.


    The Canucks don't have to move any key players to fit everybody in....
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 10:31 p.m.
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    The Canucks don't have to move any key players to fit everybody in....


    Avs don't have to either. Their rfa's don't even have arb rights. Q.O or bridge them and when the cap goes way up, you sign them to long term deals.
    Sep. 20, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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    They don’t have holes. They r the Avs lol. They will be fine.


    Avs don't have holes? Who's their 2C again? Or starting goaltender?
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 12:19 a.m.
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    Avs don't have holes? Who's their 2C again? Or starting goaltender?


    Which they won cup with their 2c unable to hold a stick and. Goalie with one good eye
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    Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    I meant difficulty matching an offersheet. If lets say Byram gets offersheeted to a $6 or $7 million dollar contract, the Avs wouldn't have an easy time giving what Newhook wants along with filling out the rest of the holes on their roster


    I just made an AGM (titled "2023 off-season") where I had Byram at $7m with only Toews as a casualty. It's doable. Avs match any OS.
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:41 a.m.
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    I just made an AGM (titled "2023 off-season") where I had Byram at $7m with only Toews as a casualty. It's doable. Avs match any OS.


    Exactly, that proves my point. If you give Byram that amount of money another team could very easily just offersheet Newhook for a million dollars more and Avs wouldn't be able to match
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 2:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: Byrr
    Avs don't have holes? Who's their 2C again? Or starting goaltender?


    Newhook and Georgiev…. If Sakic is good with that then so am I.
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 3:40 a.m.
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    Exactly, that proves my point. If you give Byram that amount of money another team could very easily just offersheet Newhook for a million dollars more and Avs wouldn't be able to match


    The Shorks got Niemi this way, kinda.
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 4:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: cooliny
    Exactly, that proves my point. If you give Byram that amount of money another team could very easily just offersheet Newhook for a million dollars more and Avs wouldn't be able to match


    You're assuming that Newhook would want to create bad blood with the Avs over one million. Doubt he would, especially if they're bridging him with a view of paying him on a long-term deal a couple of years later.

    Cmac/Sakic also seem to be too prudent to leave themselves open to that sort of scenario. They'll negotiate with Byram and Newhook in parallel and then get both done relatively close to one another.
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 6:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: Isles5513
    Newhook and Georgiev…. If Sakic is good with that then so am I.


    That's nice but they are still holes in the roster regardless of how you, or Sakic, feels about them. Expecting a GM to throw players under the bus before you call them 'holes' on the roster is a rather unrealistic stance. Those 2 are massive downgrades on last season and with less help around them as well. They are the 2 holes on an Avs roster which isn't as strong as it was when they pushed through injury problems in the playoffs.
    Sep. 21, 2022 at 7:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Byrr
    That's nice but they are still holes in the roster regardless of how you, or Sakic, feels about them. Expecting a GM to throw players under the bus before you call them 'holes' on the roster is a rather unrealistic stance. Those 2 are massive downgrades on last season and with less help around them as well. They are the 2 holes on an Avs roster which isn't as strong as it was when they pushed through injury problems in the playoffs.


    Kuemper had one eye and the Avs still won the cup with him. Tbh I didn’t think he was any good before the eye injury either.

    And yeah Newhook wasn’t as good as Kadri last year. As far as NHL players go he’s pretty early in his developmental curve. I think he will figure it out. If not they have E-Rod and Compher at stop gap options. If Sakic believes in this roster, then I’m not gonna argue with him. He knows what he’s doing lol.
     
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