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Forget Chychrun

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2022
Published: Sep. 21, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brassard, Derick1$800,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. van Riemsdyk, James ($3,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Deadline acquisition
PHI
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
  1. Pionk, Neal
WPG
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
  • Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
  • Colin White: $875,000
  • Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
  • Dion Phaneuf: $354,167
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$80,784,881$0$4,025,000$1,715,119
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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DeBrincat, Alex
$6,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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Stützle, Tim
$925,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Giroux, Claude
$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Tkachuk, Brady
$8,205,714
LW, C
UFA - 6
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Norris, Joshua
$7,950,000
C
UFA - 8
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Batherson, Drake
$4,975,000
RW
UFA - 5
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van Riemsdyk, James
$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pinto, Shane
$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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Joseph, Mathieu
$2,950,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 4
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Kelly, Parker
$762,500
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Brassard, Derick
$800,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Motte, Tyler
$1,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Chabot, Thomas
$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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Zub, Artem
$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Talbot, Cam
$3,666,667
G
UFA - 1
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Sanderson, Jake
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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Pionk, Neal
$5,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Forsberg, Anton
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
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Brännström, Erik
$900,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Hamonic, Travis
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Watson, Austin
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Holden, Nick
$1,300,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1

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Sep. 21 at 9:21 a.m.
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If Pionk was available at that price I’d say go for it. Only question is if they can afford to keep Zub in this situation.
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Sep. 21 at 9:25 a.m.
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Never thought Chychrun was the best fit in Ottawa, guy would show up and immediately be forced to play on his offside
Sep. 21 at 9:32 a.m.
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You've included a first to dump Zaitsev, but a disappointing prospect and a late second doesn't get you a top 4 RHD.
Sep. 21 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
You've included a first to dump Zaitsev, but a disappointing prospect and a late second doesn't get you a top 4 RHD.


Ottawa isn’t dumping Zaitsev with a 1st. And Thomson isn’t a disappointing prospect .
Sep. 21 at 9:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
You've included a first to dump Zaitsev, but a disappointing prospect and a late second doesn't get you a top 4 RHD.


"Disappointing prospect" just say you don't know who he is lmao he's not a Disappointing prospect at all.
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Sep. 21 at 9:44 a.m.
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If Ottawa can get WPG to bite on Z, you target DeMelo all day vs Pionk
Sep. 21 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
Ottawa isn’t dumping Zaitsev with a 1st. And Thomson isn’t a disappointing prospect .


Well then, what are you giving Winnipeg to take Zaitsev as a cap dump? 4.5 mil is a lot for a replacement level defenseman.

I guess you could make the case that Thomson isn't a prospect anymore at 22. But he definitely is disappointing. Not be able to crack Ottawa's defense with his pedigree, defines him as disappointing.
Sep. 21 at 9:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
"Disappointing prospect" just say you don't know who he is lmao he's not a Disappointing prospect at all.


22 and can't crack Ottawa's defense is the definition of disappointing. Every report you read or hear on him includes disappointing. You may have someone else in mind.

I understand that you're an Ottawa fan, but try and view it objectively.
Sep. 21 at 10:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
22 and can't crack Ottawa's defense is the definition of disappointing. Every report you read or hear on him includes disappointing. You may have someone else in mind.

I understand that you're an Ottawa fan, but try and view it objectively.


Maybe it's because Ottawa was rebuilding for the past 3-4 years and didn't want to rush a 19 year old Fin over to play on some of the worst Ottawa teams ever to be iced.

Tell me you know nothing about player development without telling me you know nothing about player development.
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Sep. 21 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
If Ottawa can get WPG to bite on Z, you target DeMelo all day vs Pionk


Give me Melo all day. Would love to see him back in Ottawa.
Sep. 21 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
"Disappointing prospect" just say you don't know who he is lmao he's not a Disappointing prospect at all.


Or he's just 2 years late on the news lol

Quoting: Windjammer
I guess you could make the case that Thomson isn't a prospect anymore at 22. But he definitely is disappointing. Not be able to crack Ottawa's defense with his pedigree, defines him as disappointing.


Dear God, very good example of what is wrong on the internet : intellectual dishonesty, you talk without knowing then start spewing nonsense instead of just admitting you were wrong

Lassi Thomson turns 22 y/o in 3 days for Christ's sake... NA pro hockey hasn't been played for months

And I guess guys like Norris and Batherson were disappointing too for not cracking Ottawa earlier...

Quoting: Windjammer
22 and can't crack Ottawa's defense is the definition of disappointing. Every report you read or hear on him includes disappointing. You may have someone else in mind.

I understand that you're an Ottawa fan, but try and view it objectively.


LMAO! Doubling down on ignorance is cute (and then tripling down after that too lol)
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Sep. 21 at 10:53 a.m.
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Or he's just 2 years late on the news lol



Dear God, very good example of what is wrong on the internet : intellectual dishonesty, you talk without knowing then start spewing nonsense instead of just admitting you were wrong

Lassi Thomson turns 22 y/o in 3 days for Christ's sake... NA pro hockey hasn't been played for months

And I guess guys like Norris and Batherson were disappointing too for not cracking Ottawa earlier...



LMAO! Doubling down on ignorance is cute (and then tripling down after that too lol)


Wow. You Ottawa fans are a little touchy when someone points out reality.
Sep. 21 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
Wow. You Ottawa fans are a little touchy when someone points out reality.


What reality? Yours?

That's what @Claesson4Norris, @csick, @Green4D4 and myself have been trying to tell you. Thomson progressed very nicely since coming to NA and last year he even earned a lot of praise.

I was personally starting to write him off 2 years ago but he has reestablished himself as a legit prospect since then.

And even then, I'm still not that high on him. I think he'll do fine but "disappointing" can't be farther from that reality you're talking about
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