Not sure I would want him. He'd be wearing a tinfoil hat in a few weeks and I'm down a 1st +

Leafs paid Foligno a 1st ++. Why would Bert get much less in return?

When was the last time Holland didn't have a first round pick? I'm not saying he wouldn't in the right situation but that would involve filling a very obvious hole which the oilers don't currently have.

How come they haven’t come to a deal yet? His new deal with likely have trade clauses included also which could complicate things. SY is a great GM but that doesn’t guarantee a contract in place for a sign and trade. Not to mention that the contract would need to be a good one that teams will want to acquire. He is either signing and staying with DET or he is a rental. The chances of a sign and trade are slim since it doesn’t happen in the NHL(excluding Tkachuk)

Sandin a 2nd and kerfoot for cap reasons

I don’t see why he wouldn’t pay the price.. if he isn’t pushing as hard as possible then it could be hard to keep the superstars. If there’s a deal that makes sense he will(like all GMs) pull the trigger. Picks and prospects mean nothing when you have a championship on the line. EDM and TOR need to worry about going the distance not just winning regular season games

Don't need to lump Edmonton in with Toronto. Oilers won more round this past playoffs than Toronto over the past decade. On the right path without giving up significant assets for stuff they don't need.

Tkachuk, Seth Jones, Hampus Lindholm, Mark Stone. Erik Karlsson it happens a lot more than you think it does.

Not close in terms of fit and value. Wings have a huge pipeline of LHD, Kerfoot is just another winger added to the mix of what is already there, and the second is not enough.

Wrong. He will provide the least value if he walks as a UFA. The return in that situation is nothing.

Yay, won a round or 2. McD/Drais won’t stay if the GM isn’t trying hard to win. There are teams that will pay more money or there are teams that will give them better chances to win cups. KH needs to go after the top rentals if it makes sense. In the case of EDM I don’t think it’s a top 6 forward that they need but if they did and he didn’t go after Bert than it would look bad

Trading to a division rival costs more. Sandin + a 1st.

EK was signed well before the trade. SJ signed with CHI after they acquired his rights. HL signed with BOS after they acquired him also. MS signed with VGS after they acquired him.


Tkachuk is the 1 and only “sign and trade” ever.

Your facts are off

Wrong Hampus Lindholm was a sign and trade hence the 8 years. Same with Stone and Karlsson or otherwise they could've only been signed for 7 years. You're the one off base here.

That's a horrendous return... you can't be serious with that?

Look who legally signed the contracts.. basic law

Brutal, Sandin is no better than what we already have in the LD pipeline, Sorry a 2nd round pick is a joke that's virtually a 3rd rounder. And yeah no thanks with Kerfoot.

That's never going to happen

Yeah there's a 0% chance of Yzerman letting Bertuzzi walk to UFA. If no deal is done by the TDL. Bertuzzi is 100% gone even if Detroit is in the playoff race.

If you want I can explain how they got 8 years. It’s pretty simple actually. The team with the rights to a player can give 8 while a UFA can only get 7(Kadri & JG). All the players you are listing as sign and trades were actually just traded along with their rights and then signed to an extension with their new “current” club. You can look up each of these players on this site, it will show you who they signed their last contract with(organization and GM). This may help you

Yea, a player has never left a team as a UFA before...

Probably

Leafs didn’t even consider, we’re not trading Sandin for someone that will walk from the Red Wings. Leafs will just sign him in free agency and keep Sandin

My guy here thinks the Leafs can sign Bertuzzi as a UFA and keep Sandin when they can't even afford Sandin.

Gotta keep a lot of cap reserved for Matthews. He's gonna want 15m. No such thing as a Hometown discount for an American in a Canadian market with higher taxes.

Buddy doesn’t know how the cap works 😂 Like I said, he already expressed his interest for playing for his home town team. Maybe try to not lose Dylan Larkin as well