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Created by: SellTheTeam
Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2022
Published: Sep. 21, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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i guessed on the values and lines
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Trades
1.
COL
  1. Horvat, Bo ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. Martin, Spencer
VAN
  1. Francouz, Pavel
  2. Newhook, Alex
  3. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Spence, Jordan
  2. Turcotte, Alex
  3. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (LAK)
3.
COL
  1. Klimovich, Danila
  2. Poolman, Tucker
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the LAK
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
2025
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Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$74,308,334$25,000$4,132,500$8,191,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,375,000$1,375,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,500,000$2,500,000 ($1,375,000$1M$1,375,000$1M)
RD
UFA - 3

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Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Too rich for the Kings, we'll just see if we can get him for free if that's the ask,
Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Too rich for the Kings, we'll just see if we can get him for free if that's the ask,


Too rich for the Kings? Come on, for Toews, that is NOT a King's ransom of a return package
Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:48 p.m.
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I wouldn't give up that haul for Toews. 1st + Grans + Kupari was proposed yesterday. I'd do that, but not this.
Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Too rich for the Kings? Come on, for Toews, that is NOT a King's ransom of a return package


Spence broke out last season, Turcotte is still good just regularly injured which has caused a delay, add a 1st + 2nd for 2 seasons of Toews. That is too much. The Kings gave a 1st and Faber for Fiala at 7 years, so yes, this is too much.
Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:54 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Spence broke out last season, Turcotte is still good just regularly injured which has caused a delay, add a 1st + 2nd for 2 seasons of Toews. That is too much. The Kings gave a 1st and Faber for Fiala at 7 years, so yes, this is too much.


Toews is a way better player than Fiala. Holding onto Turcotte comes with it's new found caveats, and I wouldn't call Spence's season a breakout
Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I wouldn't give up that haul for Toews. 1st + Grans + Kupari was proposed yesterday. I'd do that, but not this.


That's an underpay. Toews is arguably a top 15 D-man
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Sep. 21, 2022 at 1:56 p.m.
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I wouldn't pay that for Horvat (I know he is good, but he is 27) and will be 28 when contract expires. Not the best situation to contact negotiate if you are COL.
I would go for Dvorak in MTL instead, cheaper (not as good) and younger with a contract for two years longer than Horvat.
Kings should do that but they need to move money.
As for Mason to VAN I like it, I am not sure what VAN would be willing to pay but he next to Hughes could be really something
Sep. 21, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
That's an underpay. Toews is arguably a top 15 D-man


Then Colorado should keep him. I wouldn't pay this haul.
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Sep. 21, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
That's an underpay. Toews is arguably a top 15 D-man


That's not the point, are the Kings in a point where they trade multiple assets to open a cup window? Does Toews make the Kings a cup team? Why trade 3-4 high tier assets for 2 seasons of Toews unless you believe the Kings are a cup team after getting Toews.
Sep. 21, 2022 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
That's not the point, are the Kings in a point where they trade multiple assets to open a cup window? Does Toews make the Kings a cup team? Why trade 3-4 high tier assets for 2 seasons of Toews unless you believe the Kings are a cup team after getting Toews.


You don't think the Kings are a cup team after acquiring Toews?
Sep. 21, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
You don't think the Kings are a cup team after acquiring Toews?


Not until I see Cal Petersen step up into being a better goalie. We aren't far off, but like Colorado we might already have the pieces in house, no need to rush just yet. Blake has been pretty saavy about trading from areas of abundance to address areas of need. This is close, but the Kings have other options if this is the ask and options they could sign longer term.
Sep. 21, 2022 at 7:09 p.m.
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Newhook is almost certainly not getting traded. He's our future 2C. Horvat is also a UFA, so unless Vancouver can promise a cheap extension for him, I'm not sure I want him (I don't want to pay our top 2 centers nearly 20M).

Kings decline the second one. I think the comments here speak for themselves.
Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:39 a.m.
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The Avs just won the cup, why are you stripping their team apart
Sep. 22, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Too rich for the Kings, we'll just see if we can get him for free if that's the ask,


Quoting: Knuckl3s
Too rich for the Kings? Come on, for Toews, that is NOT a King's ransom of a return package


Quoting: tkecanuck341
I wouldn't give up that haul for Toews. 1st + Grans + Kupari was proposed yesterday. I'd do that, but not this.


Quoting: tryger
Spence broke out last season, Turcotte is still good just regularly injured which has caused a delay, add a 1st + 2nd for 2 seasons of Toews. That is too much. The Kings gave a 1st and Faber for Fiala at 7 years, so yes, this is too much.


Quoting: tkecanuck341
Then Colorado should keep him. I wouldn't pay this haul.


Avs wouldn't move their top pairing LHD for this return.

Turcotte might have potential, but he's shown nothing in the NHL yet and has a serious red flag due to recurring concussions.
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.
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For 2 seasons of Toews and then walking to FA, I’d trade a 1st possibly a 2nd and a highly touted prospect but that doesn’t seem beneficial to Colorado so it wouldn’t happen I’m sure
 
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