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Give the bargain bin players a real oppportunity to shine at the start

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Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 22, 2022
Published: Sep. 22, 2022
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May as well see if any of them pop off right?
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Taxi Squad
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Sep. 22, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
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Maybe in the preseason but once the regular season starts there is no point in breaking up one of the best lines in the game. Plus Kampf with Engvall and Jarnkrock or ZAR will be so good defensively that you can really target other teams 3rd and 4th lines with JT's line and hopefully really dominate other teams with our top 6. I like the idea of Guadette with Aube-Kubel and whoever else is on the 4th line to really attack other teams 4th lines and forecheck hard. They may only get 8-10 minutes a night anyways so you can really develop an identity 4th line that helps you in ways our 4th line couldn't do last season.
Sep. 22, 2022 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Maybe in the preseason but once the regular season starts there is no point in breaking up one of the best lines in the game. Plus Kampf with Engvall and Jarnkrock or ZAR will be so good defensively that you can really target other teams 3rd and 4th lines with JT's line and hopefully really dominate other teams with our top 6. I like the idea of Guadette with Aube-Kubel and whoever else is on the 4th line to really attack other teams 4th lines and forecheck hard. They may only get 8-10 minutes a night anyways so you can really develop an identity 4th line that helps you in ways our 4th line couldn't do last season.

Agree, lines (imo) will be:
1/ Bunting, Mathews, Marner (arguably best line in nhl)
2/ Robertson (Kerfoot when Engvall is healthy), JT, Willy (Robertson is only forward waiver exempt so he goes, unless he explodes)
3/ ZAR,Kampf, Jarnkrok (shutdown matchup line - ZAR is so good defensively, he has to play here)
3/ Kerfoot( Engvall when healthy), Gaudette, AKN - hopefully energy, tough to play against & occasional goal
Sep. 22, 2022 at 6:49 p.m.
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Quoting: kster34
Agree, lines (imo) will be:
1/ Bunting, Mathews, Marner (arguably best line in nhl)
2/ Robertson (Kerfoot when Engvall is healthy), JT, Willy (Robertson is only forward waiver exempt so he goes, unless he explodes)
3/ ZAR,Kampf, Jarnkrok (shutdown matchup line - ZAR is so good defensively, he has to play here)
3/ Kerfoot( Engvall when healthy), Gaudette, AKN - hopefully energy, tough to play against & occasional goal


Engvall offers more than ZAR on the 3rd line. He is such a good puck mover and is also very good defensively.
Sep. 22, 2022 at 6:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Logan_Ollivier
Engvall offers more than ZAR on the 3rd line. He is such a good puck mover and is also very good defensively.


Depends on Keefe’s thinking; I just think ZAR, Kampf, Jarnkrok would be really, really strong defensively albeit with limited offense. I like engvall’s speed and size playing with AKN (forecheck) & Gaudette - who seems like he has his mojo back (finally healthy).
Beauty is you could always flip one of the bottom 6 wingers with Kerfoot if needed (injury, slump, etc). Having such a dominant first line, an above average second line and lots of speed in bottom 6 provides Keefe with a lot of room to experiment. Plus Robertson in minors waiting. Looking good💪!
Sep. 22, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: kster34
Agree, lines (imo) will be:
1/ Bunting, Mathews, Marner (arguably best line in nhl)
2/ Robertson (Kerfoot when Engvall is healthy), JT, Willy (Robertson is only forward waiver exempt so he goes, unless he explodes)
3/ ZAR,Kampf, Jarnkrok (shutdown matchup line - ZAR is so good defensively, he has to play here)
3/ Kerfoot( Engvall when healthy), Gaudette, AKN - hopefully energy, tough to play against & occasional goal


Stop it just stop.
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If they play it drai-mcdavid-kane/hyman
Ffs even marchand-bergeron-pasta is better but they didnt play together much the 2nd half last year and now marchys injured
Sep. 22, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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Stop it just stop.
Landy-mackinnon-rantanen
Stamkos-point-kucherov
If they play it drai-mcdavid-kane/hyman
Ffs even marchand-bergeron-pasta is better but they didnt play together much the 2nd half last year and now marchys injured


Yeah I don’t really value isles fans opinions on nhl best lines unless we’re talking about most boring lines, in which case you guys are experts.
Leafs line has Matthews - hart trophy winner, rocket Richard winner & Marner - led the league in scoring (2nd half), both are first team all stars. Bunting is a great addition as rookie but honestly I could play with those two.
That Av’s line is great, but it is a PP unit; they don’t play together regularly.
Bruins line is really good but they were separated and oiler & bolts lines are PP units too (McD & Drai don’t often play together). Flames has a really good line but 2 of the 3 bolted.
Everyone entitled to their opinion but Matthews, Marner, Bunting are - if not the best - one of the top 1-3 lines in the league; the best imo. Even an Isles fan should be able to acknowledge that
Sep. 23, 2022 at 12:33 a.m.
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Yeah I don’t really value isles fans opinions on nhl best lines unless we’re talking about most boring lines, in which case you guys are experts.
Leafs line has Matthews - hart trophy winner, rocket Richard winner & Marner - led the league in scoring (2nd half), both are first team all stars. Bunting is a great addition as rookie but honestly I could play with those two.
That Av’s line is great, but it is a PP unit; they don’t play together regularly.
Bruins line is really good but they were separated and oiler & bolts lines are PP units too (McD & Drai don’t often play together). Flames has a really good line but 2 of the 3 bolted.
Everyone entitled to their opinion but Matthews, Marner, Bunting are - if not the best - one of the top 1-3 lines in the league; the best imo. Even an Isles fan should be able to acknowledge that


Matthews and Marner are as good a one, two punch as any in the league and will only get better every year. Out of all the forwards mentioned on the best lines, bunting would be the worst player, so that is the only thing that makes the other lines closer. If Matthews and Marner play all 82 games, they will both be in the top 5 in league scoring without a true power forward at LW on their line.
Sep. 23, 2022 at 9:20 a.m.
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Stop it just stop.
Landy-mackinnon-rantanen
Stamkos-point-kucherov
If they play it drai-mcdavid-kane/hyman
Ffs even marchand-bergeron-pasta is better but they didnt play together much the 2nd half last year and now marchys injured


the only line you listed that actually plays together is the Avs line (and even at that not always). The Matthews line is certainly up there in terms of lines that actually play together consistently, it's not that outlandish of a statement
Sep. 24, 2022 at 12:00 a.m.
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Yeah I don’t really value isles fans opinions on nhl best lines unless we’re talking about most boring lines, in which case you guys are experts.
Leafs line has Matthews - hart trophy winner, rocket Richard winner & Marner - led the league in scoring (2nd half), both are first team all stars. Bunting is a great addition as rookie but honestly I could play with those two.
That Av’s line is great, but it is a PP unit; they don’t play together regularly.
Bruins line is really good but they were separated and oiler & bolts lines are PP units too (McD & Drai don’t often play together). Flames has a really good line but 2 of the 3 bolted.
Everyone entitled to their opinion but Matthews, Marner, Bunting are - if not the best - one of the top 1-3 lines in the league; the best imo. Even an Isles fan should be able to acknowledge that


Its very telling that the 1st thing you mentioned was the isles. If you think that bc i am a fan of the islanders i cant evaluate hockey bc my team doesnt have a better line then im just wasting my time. Have a good day.
Edit: in order to avoid hypocrisy you should stfu about defense and goaltending
Sep. 24, 2022 at 12:06 a.m.
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the only line you listed that actually plays together is the Avs line (and even at that not always). The Matthews line is certainly up there in terms of lines that actually play together consistently, it's not that outlandish of a statement


No i dont think its that outlandish. The reason i came on strong is bc i dont think theres any way they are objectively better than COLs line. But they are a top 3 line in the league.
I mentioned a couple of lines that i expect to play together this year. Like the BOS line i think will be paired up again now that they have krejci back at 2C.
The TBL line played a little together and were really good but werent really together. With palat gone now i expect them to play full time barring injuries.
The EDM line i highly doubt will play together
Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:19 a.m.
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Its very telling that the 1st thing you mentioned was the isles. If you think that bc i am a fan of the islanders i cant evaluate hockey bc my team doesnt have a better line then im just wasting my time. Have a good day.
Edit: in order to avoid hypocrisy you should stfu about defense and goaltending


Hit a nerve?
And you should stfu about good forward lines; that’s why I reference You being an isles fan - you have none.
Sep. 25, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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No i dont think its that outlandish. The reason i came on strong is bc i dont think theres any way they are objectively better than COLs line. But they are a top 3 line in the league.
I mentioned a couple of lines that i expect to play together this year. Like the BOS line i think will be paired up again now that they have krejci back at 2C.
The TBL line played a little together and were really good but werent really together. With palat gone now i expect them to play full time barring injuries.
The EDM line i highly doubt will play together


They aren't better than the COL line but honestly as good at worst compared to the other mentioned lines (I don't think TBL will play stammer on Point's wing but could be wrong)
Sep. 25, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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Hit a nerve?
And you should stfu about good forward lines; that’s why I reference You being an isles fan - you have none.


Wow the isles made it to the ECF with no good forward lines and the leafs can’t get out of the 1st rd with the best forward line in the league. Sad
Sep. 25, 2022 at 4:18 p.m.
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Wow the isles made it to the ECF with no good forward lines and the leafs can’t get out of the 1st rd with the best forward line in the league. Sad


Isles missed the playoffs last year
Sep. 25, 2022 at 6:16 p.m.
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Isles missed the playoffs last year


Correct, they fired the biggest reason they missed the playoffs last season
Sep. 25, 2022 at 7:38 p.m.
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Correct, they fired the biggest reason they missed the playoffs last season


So when they made it to the ECF with that same coach, what was that?
Statistically (and by eye test, imo anyway) isles have always been offensively average to below average but were structured and a tough team to play against. Not my preferred style but it worked, as you noted. New coach isn’t going to turn them into something they are not , maybe they can get back to winning but they are not a good offensive team
Sep. 25, 2022 at 8:08 p.m.
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So when they made it to the ECF with that same coach, what was that?
Statistically (and by eye test, imo anyway) isles have always been offensively average to below average but were structured and a tough team to play against. Not my preferred style but it worked, as you noted. New coach isn’t going to turn them into something they are not , maybe they can get back to winning but they are not a good offensive team


They made it to the ECF in spite of Trotz.

Isles have always been a below average offensive team in terms of finishing talent. But they have always been solid at generating quality scoring chances. They were 7th in the league a few years ago.

I never said they were an above average offense team. The issue with Trotz is he buried all the isles going offensive players. I’d bet the new coach doesn’t do the same, and if that’s the case then they will likely be average to slightly above average offensively
 
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