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Theodore

Created by: kingkanuck
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 23, 2022
Published: Sep. 23, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This gives LVK up to $5.2M in cap space as all players can be sent to minors. Is this enough to bring Theodore back to BC?
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Nielsen, Tristan
3$800,000
van de Leest, Jackson
3$800,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Theodore, Shea
VGK
  1. Burroughs, Kyle
  2. DiPietro, Michael
  3. Höglander, Nils
  4. Rathbone, Jack
  5. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (VAN)
  7. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
All players on 2 way contracts
2.
VAN
  1. O'Brien, Liam
ARI
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. Poolman, Tucker
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
cap dump
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$80,535,000$1,250,000$1,700,000$1,965,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Waivers ExemptPodkolzin, Vasily
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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Miller, J.T.
$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Boeser, Brock
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Dickinson, Jason
$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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Horvat, Bo
$4,125,000$4,125,000
C
UFA - 1
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Garland, Conor
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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O'Brien, Liam
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Joshua, Dakota
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Lazar, Curtis
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Hughes, Quinn
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
Theodore, Shea
$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Demko, Thatcher
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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Myers, Tyler
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Martin, Spencer
$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Keeper, Brady
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Ferland, Micheal
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Dowling, Justin
$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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Lockwood, William
$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:28 p.m.
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OldManRutherford
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I think you are going to get some nasty replies from Vegas fans
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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alwaysnextyear
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Unfortunately for VAN, this is not enough. It's too much quantity, not enough quality in the package. And there really isn't a reason for Vegas to trade Theodore anyway; he's their #1 Dman and they're trying to stay competitive.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:32 p.m.
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AK50
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I feel we're giving too much up for Theodore. Also, why scratch Schenn? He's way better than Keeper and he works so well with Quinn Hughes.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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This trade is brought to you by East Hastings st
Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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Gmonwy
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2 way contracts can still be claimed. They only get paid less playing for the AHL
Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:39 p.m.
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This is like the Knights offering Hague, Patera, Diliberatore, Cotter, and a couple of seconds for Pettersson with 2m retention. Theodore is, arguably, a top 10 dman on an excellent contract with term. He's not going anywhere unless a star is coming back.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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MoSeider53
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Sorry but this isn't NHL 22, Quality for quality, Not quantity for quality. Vegas passes big time.
Sep. 23, 2022 at 5:59 p.m.
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You think you get theo without even one 1st? lol

This doesn’t even get you a call into the Gms office, the secretary turns it down
Sep. 23, 2022 at 7:47 p.m.
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kingkanuck
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AN "ORIGINAL SIX"
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
I think you are going to get some nasty replies from Vegas fans


The "Golden" Knights are the ones that signed Eichel $10M, Stone $9.5M and Pietrangelo $8M to NMC contracts. Then they surrounded them with 4 players earning $5M or better with M-NTC clauses. That is almost $49M in 7 nearly unmovable contracts.
They are $10.2M over the cap with only 21 of 23 possible roster players signed. It seems obvious that they have to move someone. If they move Theodore they will still be $5m over the cap with another move necessary.
Hoglander and Rathbone project to be more than just NHL journeymen. Burroughs can be a depth Dman who can play either side. DiPietro may have some upside and Vegas' goalie situation looks a little suspect. What they get from a 2nd and 2 - 3rd round picks depends entirely on how well they draft.
Yes, Theodore is a quality Dman but what is his actual value? Is he worth more than 3 - 2nds and 3 - 3rds and a utility player?
Sep. 23, 2022 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: kingkanuck
The "Golden" Knights are the ones that signed Eichel $10M, Stone $9.5M and Pietrangelo $8M to NMC contracts. Then they surrounded them with 4 players earning $5M or better with M-NTC clauses. That is almost $49M in 7 nearly unmovable contracts.
They are $10.2M over the cap with only 21 of 23 possible roster players signed. It seems obvious that they have to move someone. If they move Theodore they will still be $5m over the cap with another move necessary.
Hoglander and Rathbone project to be more than just NHL journeymen. Burroughs can be a depth Dman who can play either side. DiPietro may have some upside and Vegas' goalie situation looks a little suspect. What they get from a 2nd and 2 - 3rd round picks depends entirely on how well they draft.
Yes, Theodore is a quality Dman but what is his actual value? Is he worth more than 3 - 2nds and 3 - 3rds and a utility player?


Well reading the comments of the VGK posters thus far they seem not too happy with the offer.
Sep. 23, 2022 at 7:55 p.m.
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I feel we're giving too much up for Theodore. Also, why scratch Schenn? He's way better than Keeper and he works so well with Quinn Hughes.


That’s barely even close for him what are you talking about?
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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Quoting: kingkanuck
The "Golden" Knights are the ones that signed Eichel $10M, Stone $9.5M and Pietrangelo $8M to NMC contracts. Then they surrounded them with 4 players earning $5M or better with M-NTC clauses. That is almost $49M in 7 nearly unmovable contracts.
They are $10.2M over the cap with only 21 of 23 possible roster players signed. It seems obvious that they have to move someone. If they move Theodore they will still be $5m over the cap with another move necessary.
Hoglander and Rathbone project to be more than just NHL journeymen. Burroughs can be a depth Dman who can play either side. DiPietro may have some upside and Vegas' goalie situation looks a little suspect. What they get from a 2nd and 2 - 3rd round picks depends entirely on how well they draft.
Yes, Theodore is a quality Dman but what is his actual value? Is he worth more than 3 - 2nds and 3 - 3rds and a utility player?


Lol wut? With Patrick, Webber and Lehner on LTIR we have 4 million in space. This offer is terrible, it would be easily topped by 30 other teams if we fielded calls for him.
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Sep. 23, 2022 at 10:01 p.m.
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C21
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Imagine if a Vegas fan offered Brisson, Howden, Hill and a couple 2nds for Hughes. That's about how insulting that offer is
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