Devils currently have too many wings as is. I'm not saying many or most are better than Garland, but they might as well go in with a deep RHD side and running with the forwards they have.

Not worth giving up that asset capital just to earn some short-term cap flexibility

Two things on that. One, do you think they will want to give Nemec a chance? Two, they certainly won't want to lose Severson for nothing in free agency.

It's cap flexibility for next season which will see Horvat, Hoglander, Kuzmenko need new deals while Miller's deal will take effect. It's maybe a lateral step now for longer term gain.

RD are so hard to come by. Severson is one that fits our window, is a solid player and most importantly is potentially available.

Myers can be moved in the off-season for actual assets

No, very unlikely Nemec will get more than 9 games max. Walsh is likely ahead of him in the call-up order because his clock is ticking and he seems to be more ready. Otherwise they'd just had a LHD play their off-hand.

I'd be fine with losing Severson for nothing if it meant making playoffs and I wouldn't be surprised if Fitz felt the same way, the core's gotta get over the hump. Nothing against Garland, I just don't think he's the winger that the team should be looking at.

I kinda doubt that. I think his value is probably around zero. Don't have to pay to get rid of him but also prob not getting anything for him. That also assumes he has as good a yr as he did last yr, and not the type of yrs he's had previously in Vancouver. Getting out from under Poolman would be huge too.

Two 3rds is what the cost would be in this proposal. Given that the Canucks are in win now, it's not a lot to give up to make those changes. I took expiring contracts back specifically so we wouldn't lose high end futures.

First thing, Nemec isn't going to be ready and shouldn't be rushed. Let him cut his teeth in NHL.

Second, if the Devils are out at the deadline, I'd rather get a 2023 1st and whatever else depending on the market and get pieces for the futures, not another now winger. Holtz will likely be given a shot in top 6, which already pushes Mercer down. This is all about clearly the way for the youth movement the Devils have coming, but will need pieces for when they are in their window to move at deadlines for steps forward.

If the devils wanna trade severson, that ain’t the trade they should make. Completely lob sided. Severson is currently a better player than garland, but Harland has term. Equal in value imo. But devils should t do a trade one for one bc they have forwards. They’d be paying garland above 4 mil to play in their bottom six instead of just having an elite defense for a year. No brained decline from the devils

You could argue that Severson's on ice impact will be more than Garland's this yr but it's close, that's born out is most of the stats too. The difference in trade value is that Garland is signed for extra yrs on a team friendly deal. So I certainly don't think the value of the trade is lopsided. New NHL I think most good teams have three scoring lines. If you wanna say Garland is on your 3rd line so be it, he could also be on your first line.

Having an elite d for a yr could be good but losing Severson for nothing would be bad asset management for the Devils given where they're at in their rebuild. That said you might be able to get a late 1st if you covet that over Garland.

Devils say no. If a garland severson trade happens, the devils will want more from Vancouver than a one for one. Literally zero point. Holtz and Zetterlund can be centered by haula. That’s a scoring line with an elite defense for way cheaper if ya ask me

What would you be looking to get for Severson if you aren't making the playoffs? Just a pick?

Probably. Rather have the chance of picking a late round steal or packaging a first for a star player. Garland is not a good use of cap space for the devils. Especially bc of their upcoming forward depth

You're the only one who thinks that (shocker)

Maybe is the Canucks retain half of his salary

No team is paying to take on a 6M defensemen when there are better players in free agency

I think the difference in value between Severson and Garland is entirely needs-driven. If you need a RD, it’s Severson. Need a winger, it’s Garland.

Canucks need RD, Devils need winger. That’s why this swap makes sense. I don’t love it, but think it’s completely logical hockey trade (assuming Sevs re-ups in Vancouver).

I’d rather have Garland than a late 1st. Picks are probably easier to acquire at deadline though, since buying teams are rarely giving away valuable wingers.

I don't think the return will be anything but I think it's sensible to think it won't cost much (if anything) to move him should we choose to in his last yr. He had a good yr last yr and is a decent enough player. He would need to have another good yr granted. The biggest thing is he plays the holy grail position of RD. And there really aren't many better options for the price tag at RD. Those that are clearly better Dumba. Severson then you are into the might be better category which includes names like Klingberg, Shattenkirk, Jensen, Zub. Not a lot there. And they likely don't all make it to free agency. I could see a team with cap space taking a flyer on him for late round pick or b prospect. Of course the Canucks would only do it if they had a way of replacing him.

If Myers has to be moved just for FC's, that's no skin off of managements nose. I don't see them giving up assets to move Poolman, especially when he hasn't gotten the chance to show a meaning enough sample size to prove his worth

Poolman was signed by a different GM, was clearly terrible by all accounts and all metrics, he then backed that up with poor play in the 40 game sample size we had of him in Vancouver. There is optimism and then there is delusion. His and Dickinson's contracts are gonna be problematic. At least with Dickinson he has been decent in this league, I am open to the idea he could be better.

Uh, we don't know if Poolman is good or not, I just said there isn't a big enough sample size. Dickinson will probably bounce back to some degree. Might not be worth the full 2.65M he costs against the cap, but I'm confident he will be better

He wasn't great for the Jet's, but he was playing on a back end that was weaker than what the Canucks currently have. Get your eyes checked and watch your language

I spoke to quite a few Jets fans at the time, they all felt he was nothing more than a bottom pairing guy. The advanced metrics showed the same thing. Seeing him in the flesh and tracking his numbers backed all that up. That is why I say to be optimistic about him is just homer delusion.

I read your posts quite a bit and you are incredibly snarky to people, yet so extremely sensitive.

Another Devils fan here, hiya.

Like others have stated, I wouldn't want Nemec to play in the NHL this year.
I think he should have at least one year of development in the AHL first, throwing him to the wolves right away would be doing him and the team a disservice both short-term and long-term.
Sliding his ELC for one year would be immensely valuable to the Devils when they are in the middle of their cup window 3-4 years from now.
Besides, Walsh looks ready for a full time gig in the NHL and should step into the 3RD vacancy should Severson be moved.

I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world if Severson was kept as a self-rental if the Devils are competitive and make the playoffs, but I'm of the mind that using him in a hockey trade for a cost controlled winger would be preferable to keeping him.
Currently my preferred targets are Garland and Puljujärvi.

I could say the same about you. I'm only "snarky" when I try to correct people on their dumb takes, otherwise I don't say anything, I just leave a like