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Vegas Trade

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 24, 2022
Published: Sep. 24, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Who says no?

Hague vs Sandin are a 1 for 1 swap basically.

Whitecloud is a big RD signed to a very good long term deal. Vegas get an upgrade at forward (I think Kerfoot fits nicely on their team). A replacement right D and a 2nd round pick.

Leafs shed a bit of cap. Vegas fills a hole they have and get a useful pick.

Thoughts?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hague, Nicolas1$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach1$750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Hague, Nicolas [RFA Rights]
  2. Whitecloud, Zach
VGK
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Sandin, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$82,139,783$212,500$0$360,217
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
$2,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Anderson, Joey
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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McMann, Bobby
$762,500
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Whitecloud, Zach
$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 6
Hague, Nicolas
$1,000,000
LD
RFA - 3

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Sep. 24 at 1:15 a.m.
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BRUCE THERE IT IS
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No shot Vegas trades two cheap and good defensemen for a bunch of the Leaf's leftovers
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Sep. 24 at 1:19 a.m.
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It’s Las Vegas
Sep. 24 at 1:30 a.m.
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Quoting: GroinPucker
It’s Las Vegas


Vegas for short and for lazy simpletons like myself.
Sep. 24 at 1:36 a.m.
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Quoting: cooliny
No shot Vegas trades two cheap and good defensemen for a bunch of the Leaf's leftovers


If you leave your Leaf Hate glasses on then sure. But Kerfoot is a middle 6 winger who is very quick and good defensively. He would slot in nicely for Vegas in their top 9 (they have a spot for him based on what I see). Holl is a servicable bottom pair defensemen and would replace Whitecloud (although worse). Hague and Sandin I valued similarly. It was since they were both not signed and maybe they would sign for the other team. Whitecloud is definitely a nice piece here though and I recognize that.

I can see why Vegas would turn this down. I can also see why they accept. But to say these are "just" a bunch of leaf leftovers is foolish.
Sep. 24 at 1:41 a.m.
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Quoting: GroinPucker
It’s Las Vegas


The teams name is actually Vegas not Las Vegas. So Vegas trade would indeed be right
Sep. 24 at 1:42 a.m.
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I can't see Vegas doing this, they already are in cap hell and are losing 2 good cheap blueliners can't see the benfit for them
Sep. 24 at 1:45 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
I can't see Vegas doing this, they already are in cap hell and are losing 2 good cheap blueliners can't see the benfit for them


I made the Vegas side of this here https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3661917 - They are not in cap hell at all. This trade works no problem for them. Lehner is LTIR all year. The Pacioretty trade solved the cap problem for them.
Sep. 24 at 1:50 a.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I made the Vegas side of this here https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3661917 - They are not in cap hell at all. This trade works no problem for them. Lehner is LTIR all year. The Pacioretty trade solved the cap problem for them.


You also have brossoit on LTIR. He won't miss the season they don't have the cap to do it
Sep. 24 at 1:54 a.m.
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You also have brossoit on LTIR. He won't miss the season they don't have the cap to do it


I signed Sandin to a 3 year deal which pushed him up to 2.2m a year. 2 years he gets a lot less.

But Vegas would have a lot of options when Brossoit is back. They aren't gonna have 3 nhl goalies. 1 goes down and that will make the cap work. They can send a guy like armadio down also.

It would be tight if and when they are healthy and if they decide to keep a 22 person roster. But this is more than manageable.
Sep. 24 at 2:34 p.m.
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I appreciate the lesson here. The poster just had an back and forth about ‘Tampa’ vs ‘Tampa Bay’ so I was trying to be funny. I apologize that you didn’t understand my joke, I’ll be more careful with my dry humor next time.

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The teams name is actually Vegas not Las Vegas. So Vegas trade would indeed be right
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