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Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 24, 2022
Published: Sep. 24, 2022
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There are players at Habs pro camp who deserve to be on an NHL team but there is no place for them in this lineup:

RHP (LW/RW)
Emil Heineman (LW)
Jesse Ylonen (RW)
Joel Armia (RW)

If I was another team looking for depth at FWD... I would come get some of these guys. These guys do not deserve to languish in Laval or the SHL. They should be in The Show.
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MTL
    2nd round pick at a minimum. This guy has it!
    ANA
    1. Heineman, Emil
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    Traded anywhere
    2.
    MTL
      3rd round pick. This guy is a Brendan Gallagher in waiting. All heart and grit.
      ANA
      1. Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
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      Traded anywhere
      3.
      MTL
        3rd round pick. This guy is ready to contribute. He may never earn a top 6 role (though he still may) but he has nothing left to learn in the AHL
        ANA
        1. Ylönen, Jesse
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        Traded anywhere
        4.
        MTL
          Equivalent cap back, hopefully on D. If a team is feeling generous they can throw us a late pick.
          ANA
          1. Armia, Joel
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          Armia should be playing on a 3rd line for a contender. He does not deserve what's happening to his career in Montreal. His contract is ugly which is why he is still a hab.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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          All of those prospects are still exempt from waivers though. If the team has even half of last year's injury bug, they'll all get playing time (minus Heineman who is heading back to Sweden). It just gives the team more options next year once Drouin, Monahan, Byron, and Dadonov expire.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
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          Quoting: SevenLeg
          All of those prospects are still exempt from waivers though. If the team has even half of last year's injury bug, they'll all get playing time (minus Heineman who is heading back to Sweden). It just gives the team more options next year once Drouin, Monahan, Byron, and Dadonov expire.


          I don't disagree... Just kinda calling out that these players deserve a promotion and if the Habs won't give it to them, another team might.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
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          Or, we could just keep them 🧐...Except Armia, who is only usefull in playoffs
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:24 p.m.
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          I don't disagree... Just kinda calling out that these players deserve a promotion and if the Habs won't give it to them, another team might.


          Based on their play so far, then yeah definitely. But going by the depth chart, RHP and Ylonen are the first call-ups on LW and RW respectively and I wouldn't be surprised if they get 20+ GP each once the deadline cleanup is done.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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          Quoting: jpsnow13
          Or, we could just keep them 🧐...Except Armia, who is only usefull in playoffs


          Sure... But with guys like Mesar, Kidney, Beck, Roy waiting in the wings... You can lose your assets if you don't use them.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:33 p.m.
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          Quoting: SevenLeg
          Based on their play so far, then yeah definitely. But going by the depth chart, RHP and Ylonen are the first call-ups on LW and RW respectively and I wouldn't be surprised if they get 20+ GP each once the deadline cleanup is done.


          I mean... Byron, Pitlick, Pezzetta are all on the outside looking in and while I think the Habs will trade one or two of Dadonov, Drouin, Monahan, Byron, Allen at the TDL... I don't think he's gonna make 5 deals. I hope I'm wrong...
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:40 p.m.
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          I’m sure one of the worst teams in the NHL totally has an abundance of NHL ready talent that they aren’t going to use.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          I’m sure one of the worst teams in the NHL totally has an abundance of NHL ready talent that they aren’t going to use.


          You joke but Laval was pretty good last year and RHP & Ylonen were a big part of that.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          I’m sure one of the worst teams in the NHL totally has an abundance of NHL ready talent that they aren’t going to use.


          to be honest its kind off true. we have way too many overpaid nhl foward this year. its bot really a problem like the post make it seems to be cause most off them will be gone next year and these guys are waiver exempt.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          You joke but Laval was pretty good last year and RHP & Ylonen were a big part of that.


          Ya. They’re an AHL team. Good for them. The habs have a lack of NHL caliber players, not an abundance.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.
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          Quoting: drambui
          to be honest its kind off true. we have way too many overpaid nhl foward this year. its bot really a problem like the post make it seems to be cause most off them will be gone next year and these guys are waiver exempt.

          Too many overpaid players? Sure. An abundance of NHL caliber depth? Absolutely not.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:50 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          Too many overpaid players? Sure. An abundance of NHL caliber depth? Absolutely not.


          We have 15 other forwards signed making it impossible to call these guys up. You should look into the players before you judge them based on what the organization did last year. Unless you are just trollin' and trying to get a rise out of us.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          We have 15 other forwards signed making it impossible to call these guys up. You should look into the players before you judge them based on what the organization did last year. Unless you are just trollin' and trying to get a rise out of us.


          No, “you,” don’t. Not all those guys have no move clauses. If the kids are ready, place the guys with one way deals on waivers and call them up.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          Too many overpaid players? Sure. An abundance of NHL caliber depth? Absolutely not.


          well, they more nhl foward than roster spot, so that define and abundance of nhl caliber depth.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 6:08 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          No, “you,” don’t. Not all those guys have no move clauses. If the kids are ready, place the guys with one way deals on waivers and call them up.


          Yeah it doesn't work like that in the NHL. If we take 4 established NHL forwards like Hoffman, Monahan, Gallagher on waivers no.player would ever consider signing in MTL for the next 5 years.

          I get it... You're a troll. Good for you. Time to move on now.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.
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          Quoting: DefenseFirst
          No, “you,” don’t. Not all those guys have no move clauses. If the kids are ready, place the guys with one way deals on waivers and call them up.


          Wtf I’m I reading, yeah Habs management will send Hoffman Gallagher Armia through waivers for guys waivers exempt under the age of 23 yo 😆
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:00 p.m.
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          Quoting: Poehling
          Wtf I’m I reading, yeah Habs management will send Hoffman Gallagher Armia through waivers for guys waivers exempt under the age of 23 yo 😆


          It's so simple! Just bury the whole team in the AHL... Why didn't I think of that?!!!
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:04 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          Sure... But with guys like Mesar, Kidney, Beck, Roy waiting in the wings... You can lose your assets if you don't use them.


          Nope because they are under team's control and waiver exempted for a few more seasons. Really, there's NO rush at all.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:20 p.m.
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          Quoting: jpsnow13
          Nope because they are under team's control and waiver exempted for a few more seasons.


          I am not unaware sir. It's just... It's not like the Habs need 14 new forwards. They have quite a few on the way that are 2 and 3 years away. These guys who have been slogging it out for a few years in the minors and Europe ... They should get their shot this year and next, but because of this logjam of bad contracts... These guys will maybe get one year before guys like Mesar, Beck, Mysak, Kidney, Roy will come up and take their spots. It's nice to have internal competition, but at one point it's a bit much.

          With those picks if we could get them we could pick some college players and reset the development pipeline for a few years
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:39 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          Sure... But with guys like Mesar, Kidney, Beck, Roy waiting in the wings... You can lose your assets if you don't use them.


          Can't wait to see Heineman Beck RHP as our 4th line those guys could rock the league as a check line.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 7:48 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          I am not unaware sir. It's just... It's not like the Habs need 14 new forwards. They have quite a few on the way that are 2 and 3 years away. These guys who have been slogging it out for a few years in the minors and Europe ... They should get their shot this year and next, but because of this logjam of bad contracts... These guys will maybe get one year before guys like Mesar, Beck, Mysak, Kidney, Roy will come up and take their spots. It's nice to have internal competition, but at one point it's a bit much.

          With those picks if we could get them we could pick some college players and reset the development pipeline for a few years


          I'm sad to anounce to you that Mesar, Beck, Mysak, Kidney and Roy wont make the big team next year. And maybe never.

          I understand the hype, but statisticaly most won't make it. That's why teams hold on as much as they can to their assets, hoping a couple of them develop right. The truth is that nobody know which ones it's gonna be.
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          Sep. 24, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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          Quoting: Poehling
          Wtf I’m I reading, yeah Habs management will send Hoffman Gallagher Armia through waivers for guys waivers exempt under the age of 23 yo 😆


          You clearly did not follow that conversation. Read it again.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.
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          Quoting: jonh514
          Yeah it doesn't work like that in the NHL. If we take 4 established NHL forwards like Hoffman, Monahan, Gallagher on waivers no.player would ever consider signing in MTL for the next 5 years.

          I get it... You're a troll. Good for you. Time to move on now.


          Maybe. What i think is far far far more likely is that you fell in love with some random prospects because you’re a fan. It happens. But they’re probably not legit NHLers. If Montreal was overflowing with legit NHLers, they probably wouldn’t be such a bad NHL team.

          Stands to reason here - given that they’re focused on the future, that the habs would prioritize development of young players over aging bad contracts, no?
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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          Quoting: drambui
          well, they more nhl foward than roster spot, so that define and abundance of nhl caliber depth.


          Thats the point - i don’t think many of those guys are good. If they were, maybe the habs would be good.
          Sep. 24, 2022 at 10:28 p.m.
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          Thats the point - i don’t think many of those guys are good. If they were, maybe the habs would be good.


          well we are bad cause we have bad defense and not many good foward. if you have too many meh nhl foward you wont be good too, you need the top talent.
           
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