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Initial Creation Date: Sep. 26, 2022
Published: Sep. 26, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Aston-Reese, Zach1$750,000
Trades
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TOR
  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
ANA
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CBJ)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (WPG)
CBJ
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$81,764,783$212,500$0$735,217
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Comtois, Maxime
$2,037,500
LW
RFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 2
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Gaudette, Adam
$750,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
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Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
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UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
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NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Benn, Jordie
$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Mete, Victor
$750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Engvall, Pierre
$2,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
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Sep. 26 at 1:17 a.m.
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This is what it would take for the Leafs to move Sandin. BUT there would need to be top 10 protection on the 1st from Columbuses end. They are in no position to move unprotected firsts.

Personally I would rather get Sandin signed and in the line up. I am very high on him. But if he keeps holding out, I would make this trade. The top 10 protection would need to be in there for Columbus.
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Sep. 26 at 1:31 a.m.
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kerfoot is worth a good 3rd. thats it, comtois is easily worth a first imo. if anaheim even considers trading him. they just drafted 3 quebec players and hes kinda mentoring them
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Sep. 26 at 1:31 a.m.
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This is what it would take for the Leafs to move Sandin. BUT there would need to be top 10 protection on the 1st from Columbuses end. They are in no position to move unprotected firsts.

Personally I would rather get Sandin signed and in the line up. I am very high on him. But if he keeps holding out, I would make this trade. The top 10 protection would need to be in there for Columbus.


Columbus doesn't make this trade. Of course Leaf fans would. Sandin was a late first in 2018 who has proven nothing in the NHL outside of being a good bottom pairing defenceman. He is not worth a first and a fourth to a rebuilding team. Toronto has no cap space and he wants top four minutes - he has very little value.
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Sep. 26 at 1:32 a.m.
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Columbus doesn't make this trade. Of course Leaf fans would. Sandin was a late first in 2018 who has proven nothing in the NHL outside of being a good bottom pairing defenceman. He is not worth a first and a fourth to a rebuilding team. Toronto has no cap space and he wants top four minutes - he has very little value.


what did nils lundkvist prove at the nhl level?
Sep. 26 at 1:34 a.m.
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Columbus declines easily, they don’t even have the cap room to sign Sandin nor do they need a LHD.
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Sep. 26 at 1:35 a.m.
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also very funny comment considering he has more pts in the same amount of game compared to ur best dmen edmundson
Sep. 26 at 1:35 a.m.
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Columbus doesn't make this trade. Of course Leaf fans would. Sandin was a late first in 2018 who has proven nothing in the NHL outside of being a good bottom pairing defenceman. He is not worth a first and a fourth to a rebuilding team. Toronto has no cap space and he wants top four minutes - he has very little value.


Sandin proved at 21 years old that he could play good NHL minutes on a top 5 team in the league. He skates well, makes good plays and he is physical. He is 100% worth more than where he is drafted at the moment. Columbus might not be the right home for him though, as they have a lot of defencemen already but a team would pay quite a bit for him, if he were to become available.
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what did nils lundkvist prove at the nhl level?


Nothing, Dallas overpaid heavily.

Though Lundkvist dominated back to back years in the third best league in the world
Sep. 26 at 1:37 a.m.
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Nothing, Dallas overpaid heavily.

Though Lundkvist dominated back to back years in the third best league in the world


so ripping up the third best league is more important than putting up decent numbers at the nhl level? gotcha
Sep. 26 at 1:37 a.m.
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also very funny comment considering he has more pts in the same amount of game compared to ur best dmen edmundson


Ya, that is to be expected. He's an offensive defenceman on one of the best teams in the league. Edmundson is a shut down defenceman on the worst team in the league.

Joel Edmundson had literally nothing to do with this and last I checked he didn't play for the Stars
Sep. 26 at 1:38 a.m.
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Sandin proved at 21 years old that he could play good NHL minutes on a top 5 team in the league. He skates well, makes good plays and he is physical. He is 100% worth more than where he is drafted at the moment. Columbus might not be the right home for him though, as they have a lot of defencemen already but a team would pay quite a bit for him, if he were to become available.


This is just an awful ACGM and Sandin isn't even the worst proposal on this. If Sandin was so good he'd of been offer sheeted or traded for. Columbus counters with Topi Niemela for Justin Danforth.
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Sep. 26 at 1:39 a.m.
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Columbus doesn't make this trade. Of course Leaf fans would. Sandin was a late first in 2018 who has proven nothing in the NHL outside of being a good bottom pairing
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Nice comment here Jake, back to bed buddy!
Sep. 26 at 1:40 a.m.
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Comtois isn't on the block, Anaheim has no reason to trade him for anything less than a massive overpayment. Kerfoot isn't it.

We decline this trade with extreme prejudice.
Sep. 26 at 1:40 a.m.
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sandin scored at a .6 ppg at the ahl level, nils scored at a .4. both have the same age, one has nhl experience and did great for a rookie,the other is a puck moving dmen who wont ever throw a hit, id say sandin is worth more, but then again ur a habs fan. so of course the leafs player is worse
Sep. 26 at 1:43 a.m.
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hedman had 20 pts in his first season, was he also a bottom pairing dmen?, mcdonagh had 9 in his first 40, also a bottom pair dmen?
Sep. 26 at 1:43 a.m.
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This is just an awful ACGM and Sandin isn't even the worst proposal on this. If Sandin was so good he'd of been offer sheeted or traded for. Columbus counters with Topi Niemela for Justin Danforth.


That's like saying: "If Jason Robertson was so good good why hasn't he been offer sheeted yet?"

You have to see the error in the logic you just used.

The trade value in the Columbus deal is fine if there is top 10 protection is what I said, but Columbus might not be the team to do it.

I haven't commented on the rest of this agm either.
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Sep. 26 at 1:45 a.m.
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sandin scored at a .6 ppg at the ahl level, nils scored at a .4. both have the same age, one has nhl experience and did great for a rookie,the other is a puck moving dmen who wont ever throw a hit, id say sandin is worth more, but then again ur a habs fan. so of course the leafs player is worse


Never been a Habs fan - just don't patience for the Leafs because they have fans who think Rasmus Sandin is worth a first round pick + from a rebuilding team who already has too many NHL dman
Sep. 26 at 1:46 a.m.
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That's like saying: "If Jason Robertson was so good good why hasn't he been offer sheeted yet?"

You have to see the error in the logic you just used.

The trade value in the Columbus deal is fine if there is top 10 protection is what I said, but Columbus might not be the team to do it.

I haven't commented on the rest of this agm either.


Because robertson is a 23 year old, big super star. He wants more than Sandin wants and no one (including dallas) can accommodate that with a flat cap. I sure hope Sandin doesn't expect an 8x8. we will have to move Dobby or Faksa to sign robby
Sep. 26 at 1:46 a.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
sandin scored at a .6 ppg at the ahl level, nils scored at a .4. both have the same age, one has nhl experience and did great for a rookie,the other is a puck moving dmen who wont ever throw a hit, id say sandin is worth more, but then again ur a habs fan. so of course the leafs player is worse

Never been a Habs fan - just don't patience for the Leafs because they have fans who think Rasmus Sandin is worth a first round pick + from a rebuilding team who already has too many NHL dman


that trade is bad, but to say sandin isnt worth a first is foolish or straight ignorance
Sep. 26 at 1:48 a.m.
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that trade is bad, but to say sandin isnt worth a first is foolish or straight ignorance


then why hasn't someone given up a first for him? if he gets moved for a first I will personally come back to this thread and apologize to you for my ignorance but I don't see how toronto has any leverage to demand a first round pick here.
Sep. 26 at 1:50 a.m.
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then why hasn't someone given up a first for him? if he gets moved for a first I will personally come back to this thread and apologize to you for my ignorance but I don't see how toronto has any leverage to demand a first round pick here.


because dubas isnt even trying to trade him in first place?
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Sep. 26 at 1:51 a.m.
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the rangers kid was crying for a trade and he still fetched a first, u think the better player with more experience wouldnt? whats ur logic here lol
Sep. 26 at 1:56 a.m.
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Perhaps because other GMs actually take Chris Drury seriously. Dubas is a joke and has accomplished nothing in his life.


ok so you have no logic, u shouldve of said that before i wouldve stopped debating with u a longggg time ago
 
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