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if I was CHI GM this season and deadline

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Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 28, 2022
Published: Sep. 28, 2022
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Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Kakko, Kaapo
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DAL)
  4. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
with a 3yr deal in place for Kane to stay in ny
2.
CHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Domi, Max ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
domi plays well with bigger role and puts up good numbers
3.
CHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas ($1,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
same with domi, would fit great in edm with cheap contract
4.
CHI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. 2023 5th round pick (NJD)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
devils try to make a deadline acquisition but they need cap space.
they dump Johnsson at the start of the season
NJD
    future consideration
    5.
    CHI
    1. Eller, Lars
    2. 2023 4th round pick (WSH)
    3. 2023 5th round pick (WSH)
    Additional Details:
    wsh gets healthy and is forced to dump eller
    WSH
      future consideration
      6.
      CHI
      1. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
      TOR
      1. Eller, Lars ($1,750,000 retained)
      2. 2024 5th round pick (CGY)
      7.
      CHI
      1. 2023 6th round pick (COL)
      2. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
      COL
      1. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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      Can't retain on 5 guys, also Kane isn't worth that much anymore
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:07 p.m.
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      Quoting: Wadejos123
      Can't retain on 5 guys, also Kane isn't worth that much anymore


      why not? well you also have to take into consideration that goodrow is a dump, with an awful contract, and Kane and panarian reunited has to be intriguing for nyr gm
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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      Devils have a time machine!
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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      Quoting: fil97
      why not? well you also have to take into consideration that goodrow is a dump, with an awful contract, and Kane and panarian reunited has to be intriguing for nyr gm


      Goodrow isn’t a dump 😂 also his contract was structured for a buyout so it’s nothing to worry about for NYR. Kane is worth 2 1sts roughly as a rental plus sign and trades don’t happen in this sport(Tkachuk was the first and only).
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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      Devils have a time machine!


      lol they sell at the start of the season to have space at the tdl
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:17 p.m.
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      Quoting: NYR1983
      Goodrow isn’t a dump 😂 also his contract was structured for a buyout so it’s nothing to worry about for NYR. Kane is worth 2 1sts roughly as a rental plus sign and trades don’t happen in this sport(Tkachuk was the first and only).


      5 years for a 30 y old player at 3.6 who can play only on the 4th line... with all the guys you have to sign... you will be forced to dump him
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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      The Athanasiou and Domi don't happen as they are not worth a 2nd round pick.
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: Platypus4k
      The Athanasiou and Domi don't happen as they are not worth a 2nd round pick.


      depends on the season they have... and who they trade with... with domi I could easily see him doing well and a team that is willing to spend 2nd round pick for him.

      with athanasiou it's harder sure they might get a 3rd instead

      not a make or break situation
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:35 p.m.
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      Quoting: fil97
      5 years for a 30 y old player at 3.6 who can play only on the 4th line... with all the guys you have to sign... you will be forced to dump him


      He plays up and down the line up. As for signings and needing to move him, someone will take him without us having to “dump” him at a cost. He plays all positions, up and down the lines, very physical, 2 rings so far… many teams will take him. And the cap will be 88+ in 2 years
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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      -Rangers are under the cap and don't need to do a cap neutral trade; I also can't see them moving two roster players for one. You'll get a prospect & a 1st coming back for Kane with a 3rd team getting a mid-round pick for double retention.

      -Domi double retained down to $1.325M cost Carolina a 6th & a mid-tier prospect. I don't see his value jumping up to a 2nd/4th at the same price point one year later unless he takes a huge, unexpected leap.

      -Athanasiou with a healthy year could hit this level of return, and it would admittedly be hilarious to see Edmonton swinging another deadline trade for him. Health is the key though - he put up 17 points in 28 games last year (so about a 50 point pace) but needs to be on the ice producing to get something back.

      -I think Johnsson is in the Dmitry Kulikov "trade him for FC" boat at this point - still a useful enough player that you don't have to pay to dump him, but expensive enough that you can't get back anything for him.

      -Not sure on the Backstrom health situation, so will defer to Caps fans on his value, but I think they'd do something like this if they need to clear cap. If Backstrom comes back around TDL, though, Eller can probably be sent to a wider pool of teams based on accrued cap space at that point - ie, more teams will have the ability to fit him under the cap then than can do it now. Follow-up trade is probably selling low on a retained Eller - probably could get a 3rd back for him retained straight up.

      -Toews would need to really rebound this year to get anywhere near this return. I said it in a different thread, but JT Compher basically matched his offensive production last season while also providing more value defensively, *and* he costs only $3.5M against the cap. Unless Alex Newhook falls in a manhole or something, I can't see Colorado moving their 2023 1st for what would basically be a lateral move.
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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      Doubt that Backstrom gets healthy before the year ends, especially considering that Washington went out and got another center instead of doing the move everyone expected, which was to dump Eller. Should he return ahead of schedule (or at all), then this seems reasonable.
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: fil97
      why not? well you also have to take into consideration that goodrow is a dump, with an awful contract, and Kane and panarian reunited has to be intriguing for nyr gm


      because its your only allowed to have three at the max
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: dickie_boon
      because its your only allowed to have three at the max


      didn't know that thanks.
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: dannibalcorpse
      -Rangers are under the cap and don't need to do a cap neutral trade; I also can't see them moving two roster players for one. You'll get a prospect & a 1st coming back for Kane with a 3rd team getting a mid-round pick for double retention.

      -Domi double retained down to $1.325M cost Carolina a 6th & a mid-tier prospect. I don't see his value jumping up to a 2nd/4th at the same price point one year later unless he takes a huge, unexpected leap.

      -Athanasiou with a healthy year could hit this level of return, and it would admittedly be hilarious to see Edmonton swinging another deadline trade for him. Health is the key though - he put up 17 points in 28 games last year (so about a 50 point pace) but needs to be on the ice producing to get something back.

      -I think Johnsson is in the Dmitry Kulikov "trade him for FC" boat at this point - still a useful enough player that you don't have to pay to dump him, but expensive enough that you can't get back anything for him.

      -Not sure on the Backstrom health situation, so will defer to Caps fans on his value, but I think they'd do something like this if they need to clear cap. If Backstrom comes back around TDL, though, Eller can probably be sent to a wider pool of teams based on accrued cap space at that point - ie, more teams will have the ability to fit him under the cap then than can do it now. Follow-up trade is probably selling low on a retained Eller - probably could get a 3rd back for him retained straight up.

      -Toews would need to really rebound this year to get anywhere near this return. I said it in a different thread, but JT Compher basically matched his offensive production last season while also providing more value defensively, *and* he costs only $3.5M against the cap. Unless Alex Newhook falls in a manhole or something, I can't see Colorado moving their 2023 1st for what would basically be a lateral move.



      good points. some debatable imo but still very interesting points.
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:24 p.m.
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      Edmonton isn't interested, thanks.
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:25 p.m.
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      Edmonton isn't interested, thanks.


      who's your GM?
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:28 p.m.
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      who's your GM?

      My GM?
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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      My GM?


      i suppose you are an EDM fan.
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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      i suppose you are an EDM fan.

      Edmonton's GM is Ken Holland. Why?
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 2:29 p.m.
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      why not? well you also have to take into consideration that goodrow is a dump, with an awful contract, and Kane and panarian reunited has to be intriguing for nyr gm


      Kane isn't worth that much... NYR might go after him for the playoffs when he would get:

      To CHI:
      Vitali Kravtsov
      2023 NYR 1st*
      2023 COL 3rd

      Conditions:
      If NYR reach the Stanley cup finals the 2023 1st turns into Dallas' 2023 first.


      To ARI: 2023 5th NYR

      To NYR:
      Patrick Kane (at 75% retention: CHI 50% retention, ARI 50% of what remains)
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 2:32 p.m.
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      Quoting: CD282
      Edmonton's GM is Ken Holland. Why?


      exactly. ken holland. that's the reason.
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: Finski
      Kane isn't worth that much... NYR might go after him for the playoffs when he would get:

      To CHI:
      Vitali Kravtsov
      2023 NYR 1st*
      2023 COL 3rd

      Conditions:
      If NYR reach the Stanley cup finals the 2023 1st turns into Dallas' 2023 first.


      To ARI: 2023 5th NYR

      To NYR:
      Patrick Kane (at 75% retention: CHI 50% retention, ARI 50% of what remains)


      yea I would never accept that trade if I was the hawks gm
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      Sep. 28, 2022 at 2:35 p.m.
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      Quoting: fil97
      yea I would never accept that trade if I was the hawks gm


      He is a rental... He will walk in the offseason! If you want an extra pick in this year's first round and help boost your rebuild with another top prospect this is the best you will get...
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: Finski
      He is a rental... He will walk in the offseason! If you want an extra pick in this year's first round and help boost your rebuild with another top prospect this is the best you will get...


      he could resign possibly. and my trade was made as a sign and trade
      Sep. 28, 2022 at 4:56 p.m.
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      exactly. ken holland. that's the reason.

      Ken Holland is exactly the reason this isn't going to happen. He already traded for Athanasiou, was underwhelmed and left him unqualified to walk in free agency. Besides, since than Holland has added LW's Hyman, Kane, Foegele and Holloway. He's not going to pay anything for Athanasiou.
       
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