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trade for Jason robertson

Created by: jedihonesy
Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2022
Published: Sep. 29, 2022
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8$10,000,000
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  1. Robertson, Jason [RFA Rights]
DAL
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. Vrána, Jakub
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
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23$82,500,000$74,878,889$0$3,350,000$7,621,111
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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$850,000$850,000
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 5:55 p.m.
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NoQuitInNewYork
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Stars decline
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 6:01 p.m.
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Doesn't make a lot of sense for Detroit either. How about Robertson to Vancouver trade.
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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PlusMinus is stupid
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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Stars decline


No they don't.
Sep. 29, 2022 at 6:30 p.m.
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What in tarnation
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No they don't.


Yes they do

Vrana is decent, but we have three Berggren coming already, and Zadina barely fits the lineup. And with Robo in DET, it wouldn't surprise me if the picks were low too.

Fat L for Stars.
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 7:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Datsyukian
No they don't.


Robertson is a top 5 winger in the game. They wouldn’t even entertain the trade without Raymond being included
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 7:43 p.m.
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Wings decline
Sep. 29, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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Bruce, There it is
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Quoting: Spaceman
Wings decline


Are you sure?

Zadina = Busy
Bergrenn is so-so
2023 1st won't be that high if Robertson is moved to Detroit. Top 16 pick which isn't great.
Sep. 29, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
Are you sure?

Zadina = Busy
Bergrenn is so-so
2023 1st won't be that high if Robertson is moved to Detroit. Top 16 pick which isn't great.


Yea. I'm sure
Sep. 29, 2022 at 10:23 p.m.
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Bruce, There it is
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Yea. I'm sure


If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years
Sep. 29, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


Wrong.. Our D is still a mess & last i checked Robertson doesn't play defense he's a winger .. Is he 50 goal winger prob not. 40 sure .. .. He wouldn't fix the Wings & We'd give up way too much from our depth to be worse off... One player (unless a CENTER & A MCDAVID/draisatl/ young MALKIN TYPE) ISNT worth it...

Plus
Vrana stays healthy he scores 35-40 he's better than ok (look at the analytics pts per 60 & much more)
Zadina is gonna break out to 15-20 goal year with confidence back
Berrgren no-one knows but has nice playmaking skills
Draft picks could be too valuable too

So yea Wings REJECT IT EASY.. If Robertson was a CENTER or they offered heiskanen then we're talking a foundation piece.. Wingers no matter how skilled are the easiest to replace or find sorry..
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Sep. 29, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Mike
Wrong.. Our D is still a mess & last i checked Robertson doesn't play defense he's a winger .. Is he 50 goal winger prob not. 40 sure .. .. He wouldn't fix the Wings & We'd give up way too much from our depth to be worse off... One player (unless a CENTER & A MCDAVID/draisatl/ young MALKIN TYPE) ISNT worth it...

Plus
Vrana stays healthy he scores 35-40 he's better than ok (look at the analytics pts per 60 & much more)
Zadina is gonna break out to 15-20 goal year with confidence back
Berrgren no-one knows but has nice playmaking skills
Draft picks could be too valuable too

So yea Wings REJECT IT EASY.. If Robertson was a CENTER or they offered heiskanen then we're talking a foundation piece.. Wingers no matter how skilled are the easiest to replace or find sorry..


You have a point
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Sep. 30, 2022 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Datsyukian
LOL


its the truth, the stars would laugh at the OP trade proposal.
Sep. 30, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 30, 2022 at 11:58 a.m.
Quoting: Datsyukian
Whatever you say big boy.


way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.
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Sep. 30, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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cautious optimism
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Edited Sep. 30, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
Quoting: NoVaSpartan
way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.


And moreover, only Red Wings fans would see an ACGM that makes a fair-value offer for a middling roster player and get on the OP's *ss for not selling the entire farm.
Sep. 30, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
way to support your claim with any sort of evidence, I'm sure people will wholeheartedly agree with you now that you've given such groudbreaking opinions such as "incorrect" and "whatever you say big boy". I swear only Red Wings fans would see a proposal with no top prospects and only an alright top 6 option as a rostered player and think it's more valuable to the team than a 23 year old 40 goal scorer.


The responses made it clear that I'd be arguing with someone(s) who clearly don't understand how value works in the NHL. Not worth my time.

Mike's explanation above is fairly decent. You can reference that.
Sep. 30, 2022 at 1:16 p.m.
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


I don't think Kasper will be a true #1C, Between him and Larkin we'll have two extremely good #2C's
Sep. 30, 2022 at 1:17 p.m.
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Quoting: BoudreauFan
If you take the trade, you would be one piece away from contending. If you consider Kasper asa future 1C, then you are set to win cup in a few years


Zadina = Busy
What does that even mean?
Sep. 30, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Spaceman
Zadina = Busy
What does that even mean?


bust
Sep. 30, 2022 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: jedihonesy
bust


Except he's not a bust. He's now signed onto a 3 year contract at an extremely good cap hit. He'll never be that 40 goal guy scouts thought he would but being a 20 goal guy is not far away for him. At less than 2 mill per. His contract is very good value. Not much interest in trading him when he's on that deal.

Zadina under a new coach is needed before the wings throw in the towel on him. He's looking quite good in camp and preseason thus far. Some players just take a little longer.
 
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