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Draft Class: 2018
Created By: Goblues_Gocanucks
Published: Oct. 3, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Oct. 3, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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Ya Quinn hughes is nowhere near the top of this draft.
Oct. 3, 2022 at 8:24 p.m.
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Ya Quinn hughes is nowhere near the top of this draft.


I mean he absolutely is. You can argue Svech and Dahlin over him but at worst he’s top 3. And has a strong case for 1st
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Oct. 3, 2022 at 8:27 p.m.
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I mean he absolutely is. You can argue Svech and Dahlin over him but at worst he’s top 3. And has a strong case for 1st


And tkachuk, Dobson, maybe farabee.
Oct. 3, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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And tkachuk, Dobson, maybe farabee.


You’ve got to be joking
Oct. 3, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Switch Tkachuk and Svech but outside of that it’s fair
Oct. 3, 2022 at 10:13 p.m.
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what a terrible draft
Oct. 3, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.
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And tkachuk, Dobson, maybe farabee.


Lol even comparing Farabee to Hughes is disrespectful. Hughes is also definitely better than Tkachuk and Dobson, even though those two are great players
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Oct. 4, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Lol even comparing Farabee to Hughes is disrespectful. Hughes is also definitely better than Tkachuk and Dobson, even though those two are great players


Those players can play at 5 on 5. Hughes cant
Oct. 4, 2022 at 6:59 a.m.
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Switch Tkachuk and Svech but outside of that it’s fair


No its not.
Oct. 4, 2022 at 9:12 a.m.
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Those players can play at 5 on 5. Hughes cant


Hughes produced more at 5 v 5 then Dobson and had two less 5 v 5 points then Farabee (the forward)

Also Hughes leads his draft class in ppg. Even if you want to say that that is mostly from the pp it doesn’t matter. PP goals count just as much
Oct. 4, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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Hughes produced more at 5 v 5 then Dobson and had two less 5 v 5 points then Farabee (the forward)

Also Hughes leads his draft class in ppg. Even if you want to say that that is mostly from the pp it doesn’t matter. PP goals count just as much


He’s a powerplay specialist and a turnstile at even strength. Those guys are a dime a dozen.
Oct. 4, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.
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He’s a powerplay specialist and a turnstile at even strength. Those guys are a dime a dozen.


Do you even watch Hughes? He’s one of the best Canucks at even strength.

But since even strength points are so important to you, I take it you think Conor Garland is better then Tkachuk and Svechnikov?
Oct. 4, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.
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Do you even watch Hughes? He’s one of the best Canucks at even strength.

But since even strength points are so important to you, I take it you think Conor Garland is better then Tkachuk and Svechnikov?


I do, and i watch him objectively. Not as a canucks fan.
Oct. 4, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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I do, and i watch him objectively. Not as a canucks fan.


Is Conor Garland better then Brady Tkachuk?
Oct. 4, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.
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Is Conor Garland better then Brady Tkachuk?


No.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 9:43 a.m.
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No.


He produced way more on 5 v 5 though. And PP points don’t matter
Oct. 5, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
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He produced way more on 5 v 5 though. And PP points don’t matter


1. No he doesn’t. Tkachuk produced more.
2. Even if he did, this is where the whole watching thing comes into play. Clearly tkachuk is a more effective and valuable player at 5 on 5.
3. I didn’t say PP points don’t matter, I said d men that can run a QB but are turnstiles at 5 on 5 are a dime a dozen. They are. Leading the league with 19 secondary assists on the powerplay doesn’t impress me if the 5 on 5 play is lacking.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 10:34 a.m.
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1. No he doesn’t. Tkachuk produced more.
2. Even if he did, this is where the whole watching thing comes into play. Clearly tkachuk is a more effective and valuable player at 5 on 5.
3. I didn’t say PP points don’t matter, I said d men that can run a QB but are turnstiles at 5 on 5 are a dime a dozen. They are. Leading the league with 19 secondary assists on the powerplay doesn’t impress me if the 5 on 5 play is lacking.


1) Fun fact of the day! Conor Garlands 47 5-5 points is more then Brady Tkachuks 41.

2) Conor Garland on 5-5 looks dominant. He’ll dance around with the puck and spin away from checks. I’d argue he got unlucky with his production numbers.

3) Quinn Hughes is absolutely not a “turnstile” at 5-5. He makes some of the nicest breakout plays in the league and is a huge part of Vancouvers offensive game.

4) Yes Hughes had a lot of secondary assists. However, a lot of those he was important to the play on. It would be him to Miller to Horvat where his pass was very important for it. Not all secondary assists are the same.

5) Even if PP specialists are easy to find, he’s one of the most dominant players on the PP. It’s near impossible to just find a PP quarterback as good as Hughes. He also is really good on the PK. His special teams and offence is incredible. His only weakness is 5-5 defence which has become so much better last year
Oct. 5, 2022 at 11:24 a.m.
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1) Fun fact of the day! Conor Garlands 47 5-5 points is more then Brady Tkachuks 41.

2) Conor Garland on 5-5 looks dominant. He’ll dance around with the puck and spin away from checks. I’d argue he got unlucky with his production numbers.

3) Quinn Hughes is absolutely not a “turnstile” at 5-5. He makes some of the nicest breakout plays in the league and is a huge part of Vancouvers offensive game.

4) Yes Hughes had a lot of secondary assists. However, a lot of those he was important to the play on. It would be him to Miller to Horvat where his pass was very important for it. Not all secondary assists are the same.

5) Even if PP specialists are easy to find, he’s one of the most dominant players on the PP. It’s near impossible to just find a PP quarterback as good as Hughes. He also is really good on the PK. His special teams and offence is incredible. His only weakness is 5-5 defence which has become so much better last year


Ah, i was looking at even strength. Tkachuk 50, garland 49. I would argue semantics there.

Garland must have gotten really unlucky for his whole career, given that over his three full seasons he’s 57th in even strength points. Dominant? Yeesh.

You’re using an example of hughes with the puck to explain why he isn’t a turnstile? You’re really missing the point. He’s fine with the puck, its away from it that’s the problem.

I watched a lot of the canucks over the last couple years. I honestly think that his numbers on the PP were very fortunate. I can’t tell you how many times Pettersson was cocked and ready for a one timer and got a pass from hughes that he had to catch, and then make a play with.

Hughes should play the role that Torey Krug played in Boston, and that’s not really an insult. Krug was very affective in the following role - never on the top pair at even strength, normally paired with a defensive rock, all the PP TOI he can handle, very little PK time, and normally around 5th or 4th in EV TOI.

He’s just not that all-situation #1 guy.
Oct. 5, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Ah, i was looking at even strength. Tkachuk 50, garland 49. I would argue semantics there.

Garland must have gotten really unlucky for his whole career, given that over his three full seasons he’s 57th in even strength points. Dominant? Yeesh.

You’re using an example of hughes with the puck to explain why he isn’t a turnstile? You’re really missing the point. He’s fine with the puck, its away from it that’s the problem.

I watched a lot of the canucks over the last couple years. I honestly think that his numbers on the PP were very fortunate. I can’t tell you how many times Pettersson was cocked and ready for a one timer and got a pass from hughes that he had to catch, and then make a play with.

Hughes should play the role that Torey Krug played in Boston, and that’s not really an insult. Krug was very affective in the following role - never on the top pair at even strength, normally paired with a defensive rock, all the PP TOI he can handle, very little PK time, and normally around 5th or 4th in EV TOI.

He’s just not that all-situation #1 guy.


Hughes is by far Vancouvers best PK defenceman. It’s not close.

Garlands points were likely heavily deflated by being a Coyote.

Hughes 5-5 defence is still not good enough, but it’s average. Ask nearly anyone that watched him last year.

The reason Pettersson caught so many passes instead of one timing is he’s not as shot heavy as a lot of others. He’s very picky with when he shoots
Oct. 5, 2022 at 8:18 p.m.
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Hughes is by far Vancouvers best PK defenceman. It’s not close.

Garlands points were likely heavily deflated by being a Coyote.

Hughes 5-5 defence is still not good enough, but it’s average. Ask nearly anyone that watched him last year.

The reason Pettersson caught so many passes instead of one timing is he’s not as shot heavy as a lot of others. He’s very picky with when he shoots


I’m one of those people that watched him last year. It’s way below average. I also watched the powerplay. Pettersson wanted to shoot it, the pass was bad far too often.

If Quinn Hughes was the best Vancouver PK guy by far, why was he 8th in short handed TOI per game among d men on vancouver (good for 156th in the league btw)?
 
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