Kane isn't waiving his nmc to switch to LW.

no way they have Nylander in that trade

Yikes, those are massive over pays, especially for a year of kane. The difference between nylander and him isnt half that
Also chychrun cannot play rd. He is awful on that side and not near that good

It would help us get past the first round, how many cups does Kane have again?

Ah yes, kane got all those cups on his own too right? And he was also 34, a pending ufa and hasnt won a round since 2016.
Muzzin has a cup, murray has cups, lots of players the leafs have had have won cups, so why havent they won one yet with all those cup winners.
Terrible trade

It’s are year to trade away picks and prospects?

I love Patty Kane but that's a huge overpayment for a rental.

We haven’t won cause we don’t have playoff performers, Patrick Kane has as many playoff points as Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares combined. He also did that in less games too

And none of those points would have mattered if he wasnt on a stacked team. And again, he is 35 years old and he wont produce like he did when he was 25. You do know players age right?

Kane is a game changer, Chicago wouldn't have won 3 cups without him and if you watched closely during all those runs, you'd know that.

That said, this is an overpay obviously, but muzzin and murray aren't kane either...not even close when you look at the impact each had to getting cups.

And he still needed to be on an excellent team to win those cups, op is acting like he won them on his own.
And even if he did, he's not able to do it like that any more

To your first point, yes but the Leafs are a stacked team and to the OP point, adding Kane may be a crucial part to being the missing link. I'd argue that but his perspective is not simply invalid.

Kane is still producing as he has...watch him night in and night on and he can turn it on at any given time and is still producing as he always has. So that's a huge assumption you've made without much basis.

I agree with the first part - but I'll also throw out that adding Kane to this Leafs team would be setting him up perfectly to succeed. Remember - he still put up 92 points last season despite an unhealthy amount of ice time shared with Kirby Dach. I don't think this is the deal (take out Nylander, change one of those 1sts to a 2nd, and double-retain him down to $2.625M and it should be closer to real value) but putting Kane in that top 6 would be lethal.

Well yeah, at the right price he's a boon for any team, but age, contract status and all the other things are big sticking points. Kane is a good hockey player, but even at market value he's not the guy the leafs should be throwing futures at

'Turning it on' in the regular season is one thing, doing it in the playoffs is another. His age is a concern no matter how well he's played in the regular season.
He's good, hes just not worth the price or risk for thr leafs

Arguably, he's 'turned it on' better then any current hockey player has in a consistent way. He's more proven in that sense then any elite player playing today IMO with demonstrating that as recently as 19/20 9 points in 9 games. You keep bringing up age yet he's objectively shown nothing to suggest that's a problem yet. Age is just a number until the impact effects performance and that number varies from player to player. Until he objectively shows he's slowing down, it has little to merit when you bring it up.

But that's the thing. The risk of him declining is massive. It lowers his value and even if he was good 2 years ago, players age in dog years in their 30s.
He might be great until hes 40, but he's more likely to fall off a cliff sooner than later.

Quite the opposite. The risk of him declining this season...objectively is slim at best given his history of production and on-ice performance the last few years. This AGM is literally about acquiring him for a playoff push for this season...why would you think he would all the sudden fall off a cliff?

No, it's more and more likely every day, that's how aging works. Unless kane is Benjamin Button.
And if it was for a playoff push, well he goes from taking laps on a lotto team to competing hard on a contender, then there is the games factor, he has to go through the playoff slog after 82 games, the older you are the harder that is.

You're simply making a strawman argument that objectively doesn't hold water given his on-ice performance which as of now that says the exact opposite of what you are suggesting. Not to mention he also is known for having one of the hardest working off-ice training regimens. You're grasping at straws at best just trying to be a contrary. Players don't fall off a cliff that hard from one season to the next due to age...doesn't work like that. LOL Moving on

No, im reminding you that aging is a thing that happens and you take a players age in account when you are trading for him.
This is a simple fact, and one of several i made. But you chose (again) to latch on to it and make it the central point of the thread.
Any team trading for kane will take his age i to account, among other things it will help determine his value. It's wild that you're fighting this at all

If he continues to perform like he did last season this season (no trade is going to happen for Kane in the first couple months), then no, you're simply wrong....age isn't a factor for a rental if they're performing. Especially for Kane's style of play. If you're talking about acquiring him beyond this season then you have a point, otherwise he's simply not going to fall off a cliff for a team acquiring him to use him for a few months...that's just silly and strawman argument.

No, im not. A 24 year has more value than a 28 year pld has more value than a 34 year old, all other things equal.
This isnt a straw man argument, this is you hyperfocusing on a single part of an argument and refusing to admit something that has been part of the sport forever.