SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Keeping everyone

Created by: Richard88
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 7, 2022
Published: Oct. 7, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
In 2024 the cap is projected to rise to $86.5m. That $3m rise combined with Annunen (~1m) replacing Francouz would open enough space to extend Toews for up to $8.1m AAV without needing any further trades unless Meyers needs a huge raise.

2025 would require some big decisions though with Rantanen, Georgiev, and Olausson up, along with some of the RFA's like Byram/Newhook of they've gone for 2 year bridge deals.

If cap is needed then Manson's $4.5m would be the most logical contract to move in 2024 or 2025.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,250,000
3$4,750,000
2$1,800,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$800,000
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
2024
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
2025
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
Logo of the COL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$84,075,833$637,500$0-$575,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$762,500$762,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$800,000$800,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Oct. 7, 2022 at 8:17 a.m.
#1
Representing the 505
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 4,555
Likes: 3,740
What, JTC isn't part of "everyone"? wink

It's going to be very interesting to see how they manage next year and what Byram will want to do. I think Newhook is a bridge no problem but Byram may not want to bridge or he may want a bridge that gets his QO way up. I don't think it's going to be as easy to get him locked up long-term as it was with Girard and it definitely won't be as cheap.

Sedlak sucks but they can find another league-minimum guy for the 4th line. Not sure Behrens is going to be ready by next year. If he decides to come out after this season, he's probably got to go through the AHL to get to the Avs unless he has a big leap forward this season. Annunen is still a crapshoot.

This is the point at which not developing your own guys and not having ELC's comes for you. Next offseason could get really hairy.
Richard88 liked this.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 8:37 a.m.
#2
Thread Starter
John 3 16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 9,584
Likes: 4,618
Quoting: NMAvsFan
What, JTC isn't part of "everyone"? wink

It's going to be very interesting to see how they manage next year and what Byram will want to do. I think Newhook is a bridge no problem but Byram may not want to bridge or he may want a bridge that gets his QO way up. I don't think it's going to be as easy to get him locked up long-term as it was with Girard and it definitely won't be as cheap.

Sedlak sucks but they can find another league-minimum guy for the 4th line. Not sure Behrens is going to be ready by next year. If he decides to come out after this season, he's probably got to go through the AHL to get to the Avs unless he has a big leap forward this season. Annunen is still a crapshoot.

This is the point at which not developing your own guys and not having ELC's comes for you. Next offseason could get really hairy.


Haha, I've already mentally written Compher off for 2023 because there's no way the Avs can or should bring him back. Let someone else pay him $4m-ish.

AJ from DNVR was talking about a bridge for Newhook being $6-7m but I dont think he gets anywhere near that I less it's with a lot of term. Necas at $3.25mx2 was my comparable here.

Byram will indeed be the interesting one. He's obviously a high end Dman, but as yet he only has 59 regular season games played. Without longevity it'll be hard for him to demand a huge long term deal, especially with concussion issues looming large.

Annunen should be ready by 2024. If not the Avs likely need to go with a cheap UFA anyhow. Behrens could get fast-tracked, else theres an option of going 1x1 with EJ or another UFA as a stop gap until Behrens is ready.
NMAvsFan liked this.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 8:52 a.m.
#3
Representing the 505
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 4,555
Likes: 3,740
Quoting: Richard88
Haha, I've already mentally written Compher off for 2023 because there's no way the Avs can or should bring him back. Let someone else pay him $4m-ish.

AJ from DNVR was talking about a bridge for Newhook being $6-7m but I dont think he gets anywhere near that I less it's with a lot of term. Necas at $3.25mx2 was my comparable here.

Byram will indeed be the interesting one. He's obviously a high end Dman, but as yet he only has 59 regular season games played. Without longevity it'll be hard for him to demand a huge long term deal, especially with concussion issues looming large.

Annunen should be ready by 2024. If not the Avs likely need to go with a cheap UFA anyhow. Behrens could get fast-tracked, else theres an option of going 1x1 with EJ or another UFA as a stop gap until Behrens is ready.


Unless Newhook goes off this year and scores 65-70 points, no chance he gets a $6-7M deal; the Necas comp is probably a good one. Now, if he shows he can get better each season and works his way into being the regular 2C that Bednar trusts, after that bridge he'll get paid like a 2C when there is money available to do so.

Byram has to do two things this season: A) Stay healthy!, and 2) show he can be a high-end difference-maker every night throughout a long season. If he does that, he'll definitely be looking at a high-priced bridge or a rich long-term deal. I'd say, if he does stay healthy and is tracking for 40-50 points, he could ask for something on the order of $8Mx8. It makes me wonder if the Avs would contemplate trading him for a huge haul to restock the pipeline so they can re-sign Toews. If they can get back a solid middle-pair defender that can slot in right away but has a budget-friendly contract, a very good young F prospect and a 1st (maybe two), there are teams that would pay that for a guy like Byram if he shows he's a real-deal 1D.

I'd say it's more likely EJ does a league-minimum deal than Behrens getting fast-tracked; just doesn't seem like something they'd do but maybe, especially if he has a good year at DU.
Richard88 liked this.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 9:27 a.m.
#4
Thread Starter
John 3 16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 9,584
Likes: 4,618
Quoting: NMAvsFan
Unless Newhook goes off this year and scores 65-70 points, no chance he gets a $6-7M deal; the Necas comp is probably a good one. Now, if he shows he can get better each season and works his way into being the regular 2C that Bednar trusts, after that bridge he'll get paid like a 2C when there is money available to do so.

Byram has to do two things this season: A) Stay healthy!, and 2) show he can be a high-end difference-maker every night throughout a long season. If he does that, he'll definitely be looking at a high-priced bridge or a rich long-term deal. I'd say, if he does stay healthy and is tracking for 40-50 points, he could ask for something on the order of $8Mx8. It makes me wonder if the Avs would contemplate trading him for a huge haul to restock the pipeline so they can re-sign Toews. If they can get back a solid middle-pair defender that can slot in right away but has a budget-friendly contract, a very good young F prospect and a 1st (maybe two), there are teams that would pay that for a guy like Byram if he shows he's a real-deal 1D.

I'd say it's more likely EJ does a league-minimum deal than Behrens getting fast-tracked; just doesn't seem like something they'd do but maybe, especially if he has a good year at DU.


You're probably right on EJ. The Avs have been slow-cookikg prospects the last couple of years, and Behrens would probably be better served developmentally with top pairing minutes in the AHL than being the no.6 with the Avs.

Trading Toews and extending Byram is probably the wisest move, assuming Byram is healthy.
NMAvsFan liked this.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
#5
Representing the 505
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 4,555
Likes: 3,740
Quoting: Richard88
You're probably right on EJ. The Avs have been slow-cookikg prospects the last couple of years, and Behrens would probably be better served developmentally with top pairing minutes in the AHL than being the no.6 with the Avs.

Trading Toews and extending Byram is probably the wisest move, assuming Byram is healthy.


They would be better served keeping Byram but they wouldn't get as much if they traded Toews (which they also probably won't do). Behrens better hope things go well in the AHL - nobody that's gone that route with the Avs has graduated to the NHL team full-time since Mikko.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 11:31 a.m.
#6
Thread Starter
John 3 16
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 9,584
Likes: 4,618
Quoting: NMAvsFan
They would be better served keeping Byram but they wouldn't get as much if they traded Toews (which they also probably won't do). Behrens better hope things go well in the AHL - nobody that's gone that route with the Avs has graduated to the NHL team full-time since Mikko.


There have been signs of progress from the AHL since Cronin joined.

O'Connor wasn't drafted but is certainly a developmental success.

Graves credit Cronin for saving his career.

Barron would likely have pushed for a spot this year had he not been traded.

Cronin also has a track record of success with getting Dmen to the NHL prior to the Avs as well, including DeHaan, Mayfield, and a few other NYI guys. Behrens would Benin good hands there, just a question of whether he can translate to the next level despite being undersized without elite skating.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.
#7
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2022
Posts: 130
Likes: 44
Quoting: NMAvsFan
They would be better served keeping Byram but they wouldn't get as much if they traded Toews (which they also probably won't do). Behrens better hope things go well in the AHL - nobody that's gone that route with the Avs has graduated to the NHL team full-time since Mikko.


I think they could get a lot for Toews, if they decided to trade him. Cost controlled for one year, top 10 D in the league.
They will have to make some though selection in the coming years. Mikos next contract will also be massive.

I think they'll be all in this and next season. In 3 years from now. i can see Miko, Toews, Manson traded or lost in free agency.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 6:57 p.m.
#8
Representing the 505
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2020
Posts: 4,555
Likes: 3,740
Quoting: Avy_season
I think they could get a lot for Toews, if they decided to trade him. Cost controlled for one year, top 10 D in the league.
They will have to make some though selection in the coming years. Mikos next contract will also be massive.

I think they'll be all in this and next season. In 3 years from now. i can see Miko, Toews, Manson traded or lost in free agency.


I don't think they can keep both of Toews and Byram long-term; those are two expensive contracts even as the cap rises and they'll need to spend a bit more up front. They'd be better off trading Toews but he may be cheaper to re-sign (something like what Weegar got) and they could get a huge haul for Byram; it would suck to lose him but in terms of keeping the window legitimately open longer, would it be better asset management to trade him?

The situation with Mikko will be interesting to watch after this season; he has a 9 team NTC that kicks in but could get a LOT in return although it would be a massive blow to lose him. They can afford to re-sign him when the cap goes up but if he's getting a raise to, say, $11M or so, that's going to create a big cap squeeze even if they trade Manson. But if they sign Toews to a cheaper deal and trade Byram for younger, less-expensive but high-quality pieces and good picks, maybe that helps them more in the aggregate to stay competitive.

I agree they're going to be all in this year but the maneuvering to keep the window open as long as possible will be something all Avs fans watch closely. After all, why sign all these core pieces to long-term deals if you're not going to do everything you can to be in it until those deals are (mostly) done?
Richard88 liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll