HOLY OVERPAYMENT

Tarasenko is a rental that is 31 years old with injury issues. Drop the 2 1sts and Necas, try adding guys like Rees, Gunler, Heimosalmi, and 2nds. 1sts should be on the table if he plays in the playoffs, sure. But Necas? HAHAH, no. This is really bad. Much rather go and get Kane for cheaper than this.

It's also too late to buyout Martinook, and Stepan won't make that much

I’m not sure why the canes fan poster here is really trying hard to give massive assets away for less than a year of Senko when Patches will be walking back to the roster for free.

Sweet Jeebus. That’s a lot.

Did you forget to add Robert Thomas to the trade?

come on man. we're too close to the start of the season to be going off a cliff with this stuff.

(sigh)

While I obviously agree this is a wild overpay, yet again I must remind that Tarasenko does not have "injury issues ". He's not "injury prone" or any other way people want to say it. He's had one, count 'em one, major injury his entire career and the whole problem was the guy who did the first two surgeries didn't fix the problem. The third one did, and he is coming off arguably his best season.

Pass it on.

I'm just going to let this one go...

So with that logic Frederik Andersen isn't injury prone. Nor is Ondrej Kase. Kase has suffered with concussions his entire career. It's always been the same issue. Raanta's issue has always been his groin. 1 season (where he still missed 7 games) doesn't shake that injury prone label. Not yet. He's got injury issues. You can argue the surgery has fixed it, but I'd want to see another year or two before I'm ready to say that his injury concerns are gone.

Caniac2000’s views are not representative of the entire Canes fan base, just wanted to ensure that was said.

Vlad would be a great addition if the Patches trade wouldn’t have happened, but that window has closed.

I have no idea what people say about these other players or why they're even brought into this, I'm talking about Tarasenko. But sheesh, you think Kase having a long history of concussions is the same as Tarasenko? Get serious, dude. The shoulder hasn't always been an issue, the issue is resolved now, and its the only issue of his career. Other than that surgery screw-up, he's been among the most durable wingers in the league for a decade. This is one of those things where people repeat it enough they think it's true.

Why are you so obsessed with massively overpaying for blues rentals?

The thing is, if it needs 3 surgeries, it's serious enough to garner that label. Plus, once something is injured, it's more likely to re-injure. Given that he's only played more than half the games in 1 of the last 3 years, I find it difficult to shake that label right now.

Lol, now you admit that Martinook is overpayed. It seems only yesterday you were claiming that he was worth 2.5-3M AAV on the open market and that he took a discount to stay in CAR

It needed one surgery. The first two basically did nothing. At this point you're just willfully ignoring facts to cling to a story. Good luck with all that.

Except, Tarasenko had 3 surgeries. Do you think the first two were just to open up his shoulder and have the cobwebs knocked off? Obviously if it was opened up 3 times, it was serious enough. No surgery does nothing. I've had enough operations on my back to know that. Unless you are Tarasenko or his doctor, or can provide extensive reports, he had 3 surgeries. You're trying to spin the facts. Until Tarasenko proves again that he can play the bulk of the schedule, I'm very skeptical about his health.

I'm not spinning anything. The first two surgeries did not fix the problem that needed fixing. The third one was done correctly. What part of that exceedingly simple concept is eluding you? This is all common knowledge, it has been reported and discussed ad nauseum, complete with interviews with the doctors.

I don't care, imagine what you like. Those are the facts.

Except that unless you are Tarasenko or his doctor, and your English seems far more fluid in the sense you are able to get offended by a simple conversation on a chat forum than someone like Vladimir Tarasenko, you are going off reports. He had 3 surgeries. And each one individually he returned from, meaning that the problem may still have been the same, but it would have worsened. You're arguing that he's no longer injury prone due to this issue finally being fixed, and quite aggressively I might add. You are arguing medical incompetence at best, and with that being part of the reason Tarasenko wants out, that is perhaps part of the reason. However, three surgeries on a shoulder, especially for a sniper, is not good. Each surgery will make that area more vulnerable.

I could add some incredibly unneeded aggression here, but I simply do not care enough to do so. You're taking the word of the organization that do not want to lessen the value of its asset at face value. Have you ever heard the expression there are 3 sides to every story? The left, the right, and the truth. Let's see Tarasenko get through another 75 games out of 82, and then maybe we can talk about that injury prone label going away. As for right now, 1 healthy season in 3 years isn't a good return rate for Senko.