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Looking back at a trade

Created by: evelutions2
Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 7, 2022
Published: Oct. 7, 2022
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Now that Huberdeau and Weegar have been extended, I’m wondering which team now actually won the trade. Tkachuk is probably going to be the best player in the trade, but who won the trade. At first it looked like an absolute fleecing but Calgary, and now even moreso. What is everyone’s thoughts on this?
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CGY
  1. 2024 7th round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. 2023 7th round pick (CGY)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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28$82,500,000$76,828,333$0$200,000$5,671,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
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UFA - 2
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$903,333$903,333
C
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$912,500$912,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 2

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Oct. 7, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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When the trade went down I thought it would depend on extensions getting done for Calgary. If Weegar and Huberdeau had left after 1 season, Florida would have definitely got the better of the deal. Now that they are both sticking around and Florida even gave up the 1st that let Calgary dump the cap ... Florida got absolutely massacred.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 6:37 p.m.
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Considering the flames still have a 2025 1st to use. Pick, trade etc it’s advantage them

If this leads the flames to a cup final it’s hard to argue against this trade being a master class by them
Oct. 7, 2022 at 7:02 p.m.
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I like the trade from Floridas perspective. They now have a young and elite core. The panthers are set up for now and the future. Barkov and Tkachuk have the potential to form the best line in the NHL.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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Flames 100% by a mile

Huberdeau & Weegar are simply better people than Tkachuk and will be better for the team overall. Add in Schwindt and the 1st and we got 4 Great Pieces in exchange for what could end up being an Entitled Problem Child.

Now that Tkachuk landed his pay day, will he continue to play as hard as he did to get that contract? I personally doubt it. Besides he makes poor decisions, gets injured and disappears when it comes to the playoffs

Flames Win 🏆
Oct. 7, 2022 at 7:22 p.m.
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I like the trade from Floridas perspective. They now have a young and elite core. The panthers are set up for now and the future. Barkov and Tkachuk have the potential to form the best line in the NHL.

Fair observation but from my perspective, the Flames had the best line last year with Tkachuk and when it came to the Playoffs, they didn’t get it done.

I’d much rather have a better balanced Team with better, more mature characters, which is what Calgary has now.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 7:24 p.m.
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Fair observation but from my perspective, the Flames had the best line last year with Tkachuk and when it came to the Playoffs, they didn’t get it done.

I’d much rather have a better balanced Team with better, more mature characters, which is what Calgary has now.


The panthers have a more balanced offense. If the 1st line is Balcers-Barkov-Tkachuk, they still have a 2nd line with Verhaeghe-Lundell/Bennett-Reinhart.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 7:35 p.m.
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The panthers have a more balanced offense. If the 1st line is Balcers-Barkov-Tkachuk, they still have a 2nd line with Verhaeghe-Lundell/Bennett-Reinhart.

Defence Is What Wins Championships Though
Oct. 7, 2022 at 8:32 p.m.
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Short term it's a W for CGY, but this'll no doubt hurt them further down the line, signing three around 30 year olds with 7-8 year deals. Imo they can be considered as winners if they can capitalize on this move now and seriously compete for the cup. They have to do it soon.

FLA would have potentially lost both Hubby and Weegs in the free agency due to their poor financial situation, so gathering Tkachuk for two players potentially leaving is sort of a fail safe.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 10:28 p.m.
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Short term it's a W for CGY, but this'll no doubt hurt them further down the line, signing three around 30 year olds with 7-8 year deals. Imo they can be considered as winners if they can capitalize on this move now and seriously compete for the cup. They have to do it soon.

FLA would have potentially lost both Hubby and Weegs in the free agency due to their poor financial situation, so gathering Tkachuk for two players potentially leaving is sort of a fail safe.


It's worse long-term for Florida, they have no 1st rounders until 2026, barely any cap space, and a depleted prospect pool. Sure their core is a little younger, but they lost a boatload of depth. Because of what this trade did to their cap space, they replaced Giroux, Chiarot, Marchment, Huberdeau, and Weegar with Tkachuk, Balcers, M. Staal, White, Cousins. While I understand they likely weren't going to keep those players regardless, it seems like a significant downgrade.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 10:48 p.m.
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It's worse long-term for Florida, they have no 1st rounders until 2026, barely any cap space, and a depleted prospect pool. Sure their core is a little younger, but they lost a boatload of depth. Because of what this trade did to their cap space, they replaced Giroux, Chiarot, Marchment, Huberdeau, and Weegar with Tkachuk, Balcers, M. Staal, White, Cousins. While I understand they likely weren't going to keep those players regardless, it seems like a significant downgrade.


Certainly FLA has also banked to a very short term window with using up all their assets, but they're not really relevant parts of this discussion which is about the CGY trade.

However I agree that FLA also needs to be successful, but their best opportunity was last year. And I think Zito knows this too.

At least now he's got the top tier duo of Barkov-Tkachuk inked for their best years, for as long as it's possible.
Oct. 7, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
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Certainly FLA has also banked to a very short term window with using up all their assets, but they're not really relevant parts of this discussion which is about the CGY trade.

However I agree that FLA also needs to be successful, but their best opportunity was last year. And I think Zito knows this too.

At least now he's got the top tier duo of Barkov-Tkachuk inked for their best years, for as long as it's possible.


It's a great due for sure.

I'm not sold on them, I could actually see them missing the playoffs this season. Their D got worse and their offense lost a lot of depth. They subtracted, and teams like Ottawa, Detroit, NJ, and CBJ all added. They're going to miss Huberdeau's playmaking ability, he's an elite passer they didn't replace, Tkachuk is a different style, he's not a playmaker.
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