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Avalanche 2022-2023 healthy roster

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Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 10, 2022
Published: Oct. 10, 2022
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This team, aside from the first line, first pair and second pair is extremely mid. Also probably the worst goaltending tandem in the league. Shoulda kept either Burakovsky or Kadri. Top 5 team
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$78,965,000$25,000$3,562,500$3,535,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
UFA - 2
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RD
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Oct. 10, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
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WAGON
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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More likely:

Lehkonen - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Newhook - Nichushkin
Rodrigues - Compher - Meyers
Cogliano - Helm - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Girard - Johnson
Byram - Manson
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 6:29 p.m.
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I think a rookie like Meyers would fit better on the 4th line and see how he does. Also he's a LW/C
Oct. 10, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.
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Couldn't afford to keep Bura or Naz; going to have to have others step up. Claiming that the goaltending is the worst before the season has even started is silly.
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 7:15 p.m.
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Not even close the worst tandem in the league
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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I think a rookie like Meyers would fit better on the 4th line and see how he does. Also he's a LW/C


So you haven’t paid any attention to the avs. Got i
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 7:29 p.m.
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Franzouz isn't horrible but having him or Georgiev start is not good. No argument
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 8:37 p.m.
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Swap Nichushkin and Rantanen. Newhook will probably be best developed playing with Rantanen, as he has much more offensive potency than Landeskog. Also those 1st line minutes are what I think will help Nuke to flourish.

Meyers goes on the 3rd line to give him more development time, plus I'd prefer to keep Cogliano on the 4th line, he has chemistry with Helm and O'Connor.

As for goaltending, you really are undervaluing Frankie. I'd argue that if Georgiev fails to play well, he could be a reasonable starter. He played in the playoffs last year for a few games when Kuemper was out due to eye issues (1st and 3rd rounds). He even shut out the Oilers! Point being his goaltending doesn't have to be superb, but it certainly works and I think he could be our starter, and they're not the worst tandem in the league. Bottom half? You could argue that, but nowhere near the worst (look at Chicago, for instance).

I can't be the only one who finds it funny that you say that this team is mid yet you claim we're a top 5 team. Lol.
Oct. 10, 2022 at 8:38 p.m.
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Franzouz isn't horrible but having him or Georgiev start is not good. No argument


We don't need superb goalies when we have the best defense in the league.
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Oct. 10, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
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You make fair points but I am not saying the team overall is mid, just the forward depth. The only reason that I think this team is top 5 is because of Mack, rantanen, Landeskog and makar. Saying that this team will still finish top 3 in the league while getting much worse (losing kadri and burakovsky) does not make sense
Oct. 11, 2022 at 6:37 a.m.
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You forgot to mention the 3rd pair, which is easily the best in the league.
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Oct. 11, 2022 at 6:44 a.m.
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The forward group actually isn't bad at full health. It'll also get added to at the TDL, probably a top or middle 6 forward.

Goaltending is a question mark but certainly not the worst in the league. It'll probably be about league average. If Georgiev can provide league average goaltending in the playoffs that would even be a huge improvement.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 6:45 a.m.
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Franzouz isn't horrible but having him or Georgiev start is not good. No argument


Francouz went 6-0 in the playoffs, including sweeping Edmonton. So horrible....
Oct. 11, 2022 at 6:46 a.m.
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Swap Nichushkin and Rantanen. Newhook will probably be best developed playing with Rantanen, as he has much more offensive potency than Landeskog. Also those 1st line minutes are what I think will help Nuke to flourish.

Meyers goes on the 3rd line to give him more development time, plus I'd prefer to keep Cogliano on the 4th line, he has chemistry with Helm and O'Connor.

As for goaltending, you really are undervaluing Frankie. I'd argue that if Georgiev fails to play well, he could be a reasonable starter. He played in the playoffs last year for a few games when Kuemper was out due to eye issues (1st and 3rd rounds). He even shut out the Oilers! Point being his goaltending doesn't have to be superb, but it certainly works and I think he could be our starter, and they're not the worst tandem in the league. Bottom half? You could argue that, but nowhere near the worst (look at Chicago, for instance).

I can't be the only one who finds it funny that you say that this team is mid yet you claim we're a top 5 team. Lol.


Newhook would be better served with Landeskog as his winger instead of Rantanen as he's going to need help with DZ coverage and faceoffs, his two weakest areas.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 6:48 a.m.
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You make fair points but I am not saying the team overall is mid, just the forward depth. The only reason that I think this team is top 5 is because of Mack, rantanen, Landeskog and makar. Saying that this team will still finish top 3 in the league while getting much worse (losing kadri and burakovsky) does not make sense


There are question marks about whether Newhook and Meyers can fill roles at 2C and 3LW, but there's a good chance they can. If not there's the TDL to shore the middle 6 up. Outside of those two spots everyone else is slotted accordingly and are good fits for their roles at good value.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 8:56 a.m.
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You make fair points but I am not saying the team overall is mid, just the forward depth. The only reason that I think this team is top 5 is because of Mack, rantanen, Landeskog and makar. Saying that this team will still finish top 3 in the league while getting much worse (losing kadri and burakovsky) does not make sense


Saying the 2nd pair is mid is wrong but, also not totally wrong... they are the middle pair after all. That 3rd pair will be better than Leafs top pair by the end of the season.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 2:30 p.m.
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Nah. The Leafs defence core is very underrated in an unbiased way. Rielly is very capable of making good plays while being offence (like a diet makar), and Brodie is a smart, defence-midned D (diet Devon toews). Saying that the Avs 3rd pair (namely Bowen Byram) will be better than the Leafs top pair when he hasn't proven that yet isn't smart. Rielly and Brodie have actually proven themselves. Also, the strong suit of the Leafs is a lot of forward depth with top 10 defence (10th in shots against per game last season) while the Avs have pretty mediocre forward depth with top defence. Two very different teams. Would honestly love to see a Leafs vs Avs finals
Oct. 11, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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Nah. The Leafs defence core is very underrated in an unbiased way. Rielly is very capable of making good plays while being offence (like a diet makar), and Brodie is a smart, defence-midned D (diet Devon toews). Saying that the Avs 3rd pair (namely Bowen Byram) will be better than the Leafs top pair when he hasn't proven that yet isn't smart. Rielly and Brodie have actually proven themselves. Also, the strong suit of the Leafs is a lot of forward depth with top 10 defence (10th in shots against per game last season) while the Avs have pretty mediocre forward depth with top defence. Two very different teams. Would honestly love to see a Leafs vs Avs finals


Firstly, I think it would be beneficial for you to quote those you are talking to. Just press the "quote" button in the bottom right corner, it helps to clarify.

Now, looking at that argument, I would agree that Rielly - Brodie > Byram - Johnson. HOWEVER, Byram, at his current rate of development, will almost certainly be better than Rielly, he already has a 2-way game, whereas Rielly is pure offensive defenseman, who absolutely sh*ts his pants in his defensive zone. As for Johnson, he's is basically a 2nd pairing defenseman who could swap places with Manson if need be. Essentially, we have the league's best top pair and two second pairs. We're more than just the top defense. We're easily the best defense the league has seen in YEARS. There's a reason we have Georgiev and Frankie as our tandem behind that core.





And for Byram's more 2-way game + Rielly's lack of one this last season (go to Goals Above Replacement, look at the EVD column).

https://evolving-hockey.com/stats/players/?_inputs_&player=%22Bowen%20Byram%22

https://evolving-hockey.com/stats/players/?_inputs_&player=%22Morgan%20Rielly%22

Also, the Avs have perfectly fine forward depth. Our first line is elite. Our second line will be too, hopefully with either Rantanen or Landeskog playing with Newhook (and Nichushkin on the first line). Our third is arguably a tad bit of the weaker side, I'll concede. However, our fourth line is very solid and still fit with our fast, hard skating playstyle, all while also being pretty good penalty killers (Cogliano and Helm especially). Probably on par with the Leafs if I'm being honest.

To your last point, maybe think about the second round first! laugh
 
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