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Sharks rest of season keep Meier

Created by: glarson17
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 10, 2022
Published: Oct. 10, 2022
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
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Nothing really earth shattering here. All of these are very reasonable trades, maybe just different teams.
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Reilly, Mike
  2. 2023 4th round pick (BOS)
BOS
    Boston will need some cap flexibility. To fit Reilly in, San Jose can burry Simek and send another player down prior to making any other moves.
    2.
    SJS
    1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Reimer, James ($1,125,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Reimer to a playoff contender bolstering their net. This is assuming he has a similar year to last year(2.90 gaa, .911sv%). Comp is MAF (2.95 gaa, .908 sv%) last year at the deadline went for 2022 2nd round pick.
    3.
    SJS
    1. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
    COL
    1. Bonino, Nick ($1,000,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Sent to any contender looking for veteran forward depth. If he keeps a 15 goal pace like last year I think this is a fair trade, maybe even a 3rd.
    4.
    SJS
    1. 2024 5th round pick (TBL)
    TBL
    1. Nieto, Matt
    Additional Details:
    Any contender, just get him out of SJ please. Not a bad player, great PKer, just been there done that. Move on.
    Buyouts
    • Martin Jones: $2,416,667
    • Rūdolfs Balcers: $8,334
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
    • James Reimer: $1,125,000 (50%)
    • Nick Bonino: $1,000,000 (48.78%)
    Buried
    • Radim Simek: $1,125,000 ($2,250,000)
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$82,500,000$81,895,001$0$250,000$604,999
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    Meier, Timo
    $6,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Hertl, Tomas
    $8,137,500
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    Barabanov, Alexander
    $2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Lindblom, Oskar
    $2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
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    Couture, Logan
    $8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Labanc, Kevin
    $4,725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    Gregor, Noah
    $950,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Sturm, Nico
    $2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 3
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    Kunin, Luke
    $2,750,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
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    Gadjovich, Jonah
    $750,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
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    Lorentz, Steven
    $1,050,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    Svechnikov, Evgeny
    $750,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    Ferraro, Mario
    $3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 4
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    Karlsson, Erik
    $11,500,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Kähkönen, Kaapo
    $2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Reilly, Mike
    $3,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
    $7,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Dell, Aaron
    $775,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Nutivaara, Markus
    $1,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    Benning, Matthew
    $1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    Megna, Jaycob
    $762,500
    LD
    UFA - 2
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    Knyzhov, Nikolai
    $850,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
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    Veronneau, Max
    $750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1

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    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.
    #1
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    we're not paying to get rid of reilly just because he passed through waivers
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Schood1c
    we're not paying to get rid of reilly just because he passed through waivers


    Then you're probably not getting rid of him, which may not need to even happen anyway.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:39 p.m.
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    I'd be shocked if a team as desperate for young prospects as San Jose doesn't move Meier. He seems like the perfect player to trade for a large futures package.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    Then you're probably not getting rid of him, which may not need to even happen anyway.


    we're still cap compliant with him waived so we'll just wait until the deadline to trade him for some value
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Schood1c
    we're still cap compliant with him waived so we'll just wait until the deadline to trade him for some value


    What’s his value going to be coming back from an injury and not playing nhl games all year?
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    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    I'd be shocked if a team as desperate for young prospects as San Jose doesn't move Meier. He seems like the perfect player to trade for a large futures package.


    I don’t see it. I know it makes sense but prospects are a gamble, Meier is a for sure talent that’s only 26. Sign him 8 years and he’s early 30s and get him all of his prime. Unless they get multiple top prospects and 1st rounder I don’t see it happening.
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    Oct. 10, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    Then you're probably not getting rid of him, which may not need to even happen anyway.


    Which is absolutely fine. It was just a paper transaction to buy some time to get some LTIR relief.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    I'd be shocked if a team as desperate for young prospects as San Jose doesn't move Meier. He seems like the perfect player to trade for a large futures package.


    sharks actually have a pretty solid prospect pool the issue is our best prospects are 20-18 and not quite NHL ready. If sharks can resign Meier long term they should keep him as his skill and talent is hard to find, but if he won’t resign i see a top prospect and a 1st plus being the package.
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    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    What’s his value going to be coming back from an injury and not playing nhl games all year?


    He played really well throughout the preseason. A taller slightly worse Grzlecyk
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: Schood1c
    we're not paying to get rid of reilly just because he passed through waivers


    I would be shocked to see him not plucked up by a D needy team, but sharks can’t afford good D play this year. not with Bedard and Fantilli at the top of this draft.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Schood1c
    He played really well throughout the preseason. A taller slightly worse Grzlecyk


    So what’s his value when he doesn’t play any nhl games all year? You really think some team will come calling for a $3 mil cap hit dman who hasn’t played an nhl game all year? I don’t see it.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    I would be shocked to see him not plucked up by a D needy team, but sharks can’t afford good D play this year. not with Bedard and Fantilli at the top of this draft.


    Let’s be real, even if they got Reilly, they still are in contention for Bedard. A 3/4 defenseman isn’t going to push this team that far, they have more flaws than that.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Let’s be real, even if they got Reilly, they still are in contention for Bedard. A 3/4 defenseman isn’t going to push this team that far, they have more flaws than that.


    It could put those two out of reach and push them more closer to 5-8 OA
    as is the sharks are already a long shot for the top 2 spots but could be 3/4 OA
    the sharks biggest weakness this year is their top 4 D, second is another 2 Top 6 forwards.
    Reilly could make a 4-5 win difference honestly.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    It could put those two out of reach and push them more closer to 5-8 OA
    as is the sharks are already a long shot for the top 2 spots but could be 3/4 OA


    Goal scoring will still be their biggest issue I think, and Reilly won’t add to that.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    Goal scoring will still be their biggest issue I think, and Reilly won’t add to that.


    their D if a much bigger issue, sharks have 2 top 4 D and one is almost guarantied to miss 20 games this season.
    goal scoring is a distant 2nd to their pathetic D.
    I don’t think enough people realize how good Burns was for our team.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    So what’s his value when he doesn’t play any nhl games all year? You really think some team will come calling for a $3 mil cap hit dman who hasn’t played an nhl game all year? I don’t see it.



    Not play nhl games? What are you talking about.
    Oct. 10, 2022 at 11:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    sharks actually have a pretty solid prospect pool the issue is our best prospects are 20-18 and not quite NHL ready. If sharks can resign Meier long term they should keep him as his skill and talent is hard to find, but if he won’t resign i see a top prospect and a 1st plus being the package.


    After Bordeleau and Eklund, who do the Sharks have that are premier prospects? Ozzy?

    By the time the Sharks prospects step in and contribute in the top 6 roles they're projected for:

    A. Hertl will be in his 30s
    B. Couture and Karlsson will continue to decline
    C. Meier will be close to, if not in his 30s

    I don't see how this is going to work for SJ, feels like they're heading in the direction the 2016 Blackhawks went in. Trying so hard to hold onto something that isn't there, just tear it all down.
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 12:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    After Bordeleau and Eklund, who do the Sharks have that are premier prospects? Ozzy?

    By the time the Sharks prospects step in and contribute in the top 6 roles they're projected for:

    A. Hertl will be in his 30s
    B. Couture and Karlsson will continue to decline
    C. Meier will be close to, if not in his 30s

    I don't see how this is going to work for SJ, feels like they're heading in the direction the 2016 Blackhawks went in. Trying so hard to hold onto something that isn't there, just tear it all down.


    Gushin Robins Coe Weisblatt Eklund and Bordeleau all have top 9 forward expectations, they have 2-3 potential NHL starters in the prospect pool, the biggest area of weakness in our prospect pool is a Tier 1 Elite forward and top 4 D prospects. beyond Laroque and possibly fisher and Havelid the sharks have just a bunch of 5-7 ceiling guys.
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 12:26 a.m.
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    Not play nhl games? What are you talking about.


    You don’t play nhl games when you are buried in the ahl…that hard to understand?
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 2:02 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    You don’t play nhl games when you are buried in the ahl…that hard to understand?


    he's almost certainly going to play wednesday, the move was just for LTIR cap purposes
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 7:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    So what’s his value when he doesn’t play any nhl games all year? You really think some team will come calling for a $3 mil cap hit dman who hasn’t played an nhl game all year? I don’t see it.


    You’re really not understanding what’s going on here. He’s probably not going to miss any NHL games.

    Quoting: glarson17
    You don’t play nhl games when you are buried in the ahl…that hard to understand?


    Edit: holy crap dude, settle down. You could just give it a google before being so confident and incorrect at the same time. Paper transaction bud.
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 8:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    You don’t play nhl games when you are buried in the ahl…that hard to understand?


    Reilly is not going to the AHL. He was assigned to the minors so the Bruins could have a cap compliant team by Tuesday, place Marchand/McAvoy on LTIR on Day 1 today and recall him. He's staying in the NHL.
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 9:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: NickC1988
    I'd be shocked if a team as desperate for young prospects as San Jose doesn't move Meier. He seems like the perfect player to trade for a large futures package.


    I'm not sure the sharks need a ton of prospects... or that our prospect pool is that bad actually. Eklund, bordy, merkley (maybe), laroque, hattaka, cicek, guschin coe robins lund, havelid + we have some decent tweeners
    Oct. 11, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    You don’t play nhl games when you are buried in the ahl…that hard to understand?


    You’re a troll who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Understand fully
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