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Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 11, 2022
Published: Oct. 11, 2022
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Vrana scores, but I don't like him. Not sure why, but I just don't jive well with the guy. Calgary needs a winger (which Detroit have a couple too many of at the moment), and Detroit could use a solid (right handed) RD. And I've been told that if any trade to come fr Calgary, it would be a D-man. Berggren can then get the TOI he deserves in a 2nd line with Copp and Perron.
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24$82,500,000$74,001,389$0$3,857,500$8,498,611
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Oct. 11, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
#26
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Quoting: CringleMcDingleberry
What is Kylington worth to Calgary's roster at this point in time though? It's not just looking at him as a player isolated. If there were to be a hypothetical trade for Calgary for Kylington (or Andersson either for that matter), do you want to trade for a rebuild or for a cup run? Kubalik would be a fair trade for Kylington (Offensive depth for Defensive depth). Even Vrana or Bertuzzi would be an ok trade assuming Calgary added something, like a 2nd round draft (23 or 24). Although that would cause some Cap problems.. With Weegar now on the team, Calgary have room to let Kylington move to a team who could make good use of a young RD. Meanwhile Calgary picks up someone with a proven goal scoring ability to add some depth to your Offense. Like Kylington for Kubalik. Or Vrana for Andersson.


I would have absolutely zero issue adding to Kylington to rent Bert.

Vrana doesn't start the conversation for Rasmus Andersson.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 7:58 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 11, 2022 at 8:11 p.m.
Quoting: CringleMcDingleberry
What is Kylington worth to Calgary's roster at this point in time though? It's not just looking at him as a player isolated. If there were to be a hypothetical trade for Calgary for Kylington (or Andersson either for that matter), do you want to trade for a rebuild or for a cup run? Kubalik would be a fair trade for Kylington (Offensive depth for Defensive depth). Even Vrana or Bertuzzi would be an ok trade assuming Calgary added something, like a 2nd round draft (23 or 24). Although that would cause some Cap problems.. With Weegar now on the team, Calgary have room to let Kylington move to a team who could make good use of a young RD. Meanwhile Calgary picks up someone with a proven goal scoring ability to add some depth to your Offense. Like Kylington for Kubalik. Or Vrana for Andersson.

With the acquisition of Weegar, Kylington is the odd man out and is the Trade Bait we have to offer for a Forward

We’d need retention on Bertuzzi at an additional cost, sure a 2nd or I’d gamble with Kubalik but he’s not enough and we don’t want picks, we want guys that can contribute now or the next season or two, since you are correct we’re making a run for the cup

Fabbro & Vrana are of little interest to us since we can’t bank on them being healthy and available, leaving us short handed or scrambling to create new line chemistry come playoff time

Kylington makes sense for DET AFAIC. He’s young and has room to improve as a puck moving & mobile d-man who can play both sides. He’s just not needed in CGY as much as another forward
Oct. 11, 2022 at 8:30 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 12, 2022 at 5:45 a.m.
Quoting: KingofRnR
With the acquisition of Weegar, Kylington is the odd man out and is the Trade Bait we have to offer for a Forward

We’d need retention on Bertuzzi at an additional cost, sure a 2nd or I’d gamble with Kubalik but he’s not enough and we don’t want picks, we want guys that can contribute now or the next season or two, since you are correct we’re making a run for the cup

Fabbro & Vrana are of little interest to us since we can’t bank on them being healthy and available, leaving us short handed or scrambling to create new line chemistry come playoff time

Kylington makes sense for DET AFAIC. He’s young and has room to improve as a puck moving & mobile d-man who can play both sides. He’s just not needed in CGY as much as another forward


I could see a Kylington + 1rd Round pick -23, for Bertuzzi with 1m+ retained.
2 caveats - Bert is coming up on UFA 23 and is likely looking at at pay rise looking at how he's performed. Also, how will Kylington's injury affect him? How long is he out and how good will he be once he returns?

All this said, there are other options for the D-line available all things considered. Edvinsson is going to be joining soon enough along with Albert Johansson and Lindstrom is already playing a pretty solid RD. This trade was originally to look at what the reaction would be to get Andersson for Vrana. Although plenty of Detroit fans borderline would die for Vrana, I am not so convinced myself (but would love to be proven wrong). I wouldn't fall off my chair in chock if I saw that trade happen considering the needs of either teams.
Oct. 11, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
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I like Andy... But no chance.. Vrana is 3rd in NHL in pts per 60 ....just needs to stay healthy & he's a 40 snipe goal guy..until we have more young scoring fwd depth we'll keep our rare snipers.. UNLESS it gets a FRANCHISE CENTRE OR GENERATIONAL #1 D .. But thanks 👍
 
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