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Damon Severson Trade Comps

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 11, 2022
Published: Oct. 12, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Since we are back to seeing Damon Severson trades again, I thought I'd try to put together a few trade comps. Some of the teams may not fit, but hopefully the comps match up. These are for fun, but can also be useful. Let me know what you think.
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Severson, Damon
1$4,166,666
Severson, Damon
1$4,166,666
Severson, Damon
1$4,166,666
Severson, Damon
1$4,166,666
Severson, Damon
1$4,166,666
Trades
1.
NJD
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita ($2,250,000 retained)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
Comp: Hampus Lindholm (2022)

ANA
John Moore ($1.6m)
Urho Vaakanainen
2022 1st round pick
2023 2nd round pick
2024 2nd round pick

BOS
Hampus Lindholm (50%)
Kodie Curran
OTT
  1. Russo, Robbie
  2. Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)
Additional Details:
Note: Zaitsev's $4.5 million is 3x as high as John Moore, so it is retained 50%, then bought out in June 2023:

Zaitsev cap hit for NJD
2023-24: $1,416,667
2024-25: $416,667
2.
NJD
  1. Firkus, Jagger [Reserve List]
  2. Soucy, Carson
  3. 2024 7th round pick (SEA)
Additional Details:
Comp: Justin Faulk (2019)

STL
Justin Faulk (14% retained)
2020 5th round pick

CAR
Joel Edmundson
Dominik Bokk
2021 7th round pick
SEA
  1. Severson, Damon ($583,333 retained)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Note: Severseon extends 7 x $6.5 million, Soucy signs 1 x $3.1 million
3.
NJD
  1. Tolvanen, Eeli
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NSH)
Additional Details:
Comp: Brian Campbell (2008)

SJS
Brian Campbell
2008 7th round pick

BUF
Steve Bernier
2008 1st round pick
NSH
  1. Severson, Damon ($1,706,428 retained)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Note: Campbell was pending UFA with $1.5 million on contract (3% of salary camp at time). I have retained Severson down to 3% of current cap ($2.46m). Campbell did not sign an extension (he ended up signing a huge UFA deal with Blackhawks)
4.
NJD
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Comp: Dan Boyle (2008)

SJS
Dan Boyle
Brad Lukowich

TBL
Matthew Carle
Ty Wishart
2009 1st round pick
2010 4th round pick
MTL
  1. Severson, Damon
  2. Smith, Brendan
Additional Details:
Note: Not the perfect comp since Habs aren't buyers. Also, Matheson is a bit older than Matt Carle, who was 23 and one-season removed from leading rookie dmen in scoring. But his contract was similar % of cap as Matheson's and was seen as an underperfomer in 2007-08. He was eventually flipped to Philly, where he had his most notable seasons. Wishart was a 6'4" 225 lb defensive LHD taken 16th overall in 2006 draft and had been putting up some points in WHL in his D+1 and D+2 seasons.
5.
NJD
  1. Borgström, Henrik
  2. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
Comp: Brendan Witt (2006)

NSH
Brendan Witt

WAS
Kris Beech
2006 1st round pick
WSH
  1. Severson, Damon
Additional Details:
Note: Kris Beech was a big center taken #7 overall in 1999 draft and had been the centerpiece of the trade that brought Jaromir Jagr to Washington. Witt was more of a stay-at-home dman, so doesn't match up perfectly.
6.
NJD
    Future Considerations

    Comp: Shane Gostisbehere (2021)

    ARI
    Shane Gostisbehere
    2022 2nd round pick
    2022 7th round pick

    PHI
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Severson, Damon
    2. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
    3. 2024 7th round pick (NJD)
    Additional Details:
    Suggested by KMMHL2012
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    • Damon Severson: $2,083,333 (50%)
    • Damon Severson: $583,333 (14%)
    • Damon Severson: $1,706,428 (40.95%)
    Recapture Fees
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the NSH
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the WSH
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    2024
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the SEA
    2025
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the NJD
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    23$82,500,000$79,472,220$0$1,332,500$3,027,780
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    C
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $5,450,000$5,450,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $3,200,000$3,200,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $2,375,000$2,375,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $975,000$975,000
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $825,000$825,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $3,166,667$3,166,667
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $2,800,000$2,800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $950,000$950,000
    RD
    RFA - 4
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $874,125$874,125
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $750,000$750,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Nashville Predators
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Seattle Kraken
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Washington Capitals
    $750,000$750,000
    C
    RFA - 1

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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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    what would you want from the Oilers?
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:38 a.m.
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    Edited Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
    what is going on in hereeeee, cant see the habs trading guhle and romanov in less than a year, guhle is mini weber untouchable
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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    Montreal is not doing anything close to this, no teams are. That trades comp is pre-cap era, not the same at all. Also your values are all over the place, somehow you have Montreal giving up what equates to 2 1st + 2 2nd's + 4th but you only have Washington giving up what equates to a late 1sts and a 3rd or 4th (Borgstrom is a 25 year old 4th line winger). Your likely closer on the Washington trade (a late 1st + decent prospect and cap offset), Severson is a UFA and that is the going rate for UFA's at the deadline.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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    Quoting: oilersguy
    what would you want from the Oilers?


    Connor McDavid?

    For Severson, I'd say look at those packages above and come up with something similar. Our needs are simple. We need better goaltending than last year. We need a big-body-soft-hands type to play in net-front area and tip, deflect, screen and clean up rebounds (we had hoped that Nolan Foote would become that guy, but his development has been slow, like his skating). And we need maybe one big, mobile LHD that can move the puck efficiently out of d-zone.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:47 a.m.
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    Connor McDavid?

    For Severson, I'd say look at those packages above and come up with something similar. Our needs are simple. We need better goaltending than last year. We need a big-body-soft-hands type to play in net-front area and tip, deflect, screen and clean up rebounds (we had hoped that Nolan Foote would become that guy, but his development has been slow, like his skating). And we need maybe one big, mobile LHD that can move the puck efficiently out of d-zone.


    would 1st and Schaefer (big boy with grit, sneaky good hands, good shot) or Broberg (moblie LHD) and a 2nd be a good package
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    what is going on in hereeeee, cant see teh habs trading guhle and romanov in less than a year, guhle is mini weber untouchable


    Read what I wrote. Habs, as a team, are not a good fit.

    But am looking at previous trades for d-men that are similar to Severson today. I am using them as comps.

    Quoting: Campabee
    Montreal is not doing anything close to this, no teams are. That trades comp is pre-cap era, not the same at all. Also your values are all over the place, somehow you have Montreal giving up what equates to 2 1st + 2 2nd's + 4th but you only have Washington giving up what equates to a late 1sts and a 3rd or 4th (Borgstrom is a 25 year old 4th line winger). Your likely closer on the Washington trade (a late 1st + decent prospect and cap offset), Severson is a UFA and that is the going rate for UFA's at the deadline.


    Which one is pre-cap era? I think they are all from cap era.

    Values are meant to be all over the place.
    These are comps, not asking prices.
    Its intended to provide a range of options that could be used to model a trade today.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Hughes would laugh at this offer. No other team is giving up a prospect as good as Guhle and that Florida pick isn't one MTL would give up for a rental.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 11:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: oilersguy
    would 1st and Schaefer (big boy with grit, sneaky good hands, good shot) or Broberg (moblie LHD) and a 2nd be a good package


    Both sound realistic to me
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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    I get the value from the trades, but I would think Ottawa would have little to no interest in retaining anything on Z. I'm also bullish on them trading this year's 1st when the playoffs are far from guaranteed.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:16 p.m.
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    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Hughes would laugh at this offer. No other team is giving up a prospect as good as Guhle and that Florida pick isn't one MTL would give up for a rental.


    These are comps. Not asking prices. (It says it there in the title). They are intended to give a range of prices that could mimic a market. In other words, these are not the answer to “what do we need to pay” but are more an answer to “what could other teams be paying”. Comps. Like when you buy a house.

    So for instance, if you are the GM of a team in need of a player like Severson, and you want to know what a competitive bid would look like, you’d want your AGM to assemble a list of comps. It doesn’t mean all those teams are bidding. And since players aren’t really sold via auction, there is no market information about bid vs ask prices. So your AGM makes up a list like this. And if it’s accurate, you’d have a rough idea of what type of offers Tom Fitzgerald is receiving from your competition. Some good, some bad.

    Does that make sense?
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    I get the value from the trades, but I would think Ottawa would have little to no interest in retaining anything on Z. I'm also bullish on them trading this year's 1st when the playoffs are far from guaranteed.


    “Bullish” usually means optimistic or with the expectation that something will improve. (“Bearish” means opposite). Do you mean you expect them to trade a 1st? Or you don’t want them to?

    If it were an actual offer, I would be surprised if NJD took anything with Zaitsev included. Our GM has never taken a cap dump, even when we had tons of space in a flat cap era. So I doubt they would start today. (They last one NJD took was in 2016 with Savard trade, and we have had some lousy teams with tons of cap space since).
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:39 p.m.
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    Ottawa declines pretty easily
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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    Ottawa declines pretty easily


    These are comps. Not offers.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:13 p.m.
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    Read what I wrote. Habs, as a team, are not a good fit.

    But am looking at previous trades for d-men that are similar to Severson today. I am using them as comps.



    Which one is pre-cap era? I think they are all from cap era.

    Values are meant to be all over the place.
    These are comps, not asking prices.
    Its intended to provide a range of options that could be used to model a trade today.


    Sorry, my bad was thinking that the Boyle trade was pre-cap (thought his career ended before 2012 LOL).

    Comps are meant to be similar to help narrow down a players value not be so wide spread as to confuse what the player is actually worth. You don't see the press say well this player has a value anywhere from 4 1sts to a 7th round pick. You see them say (lets use Lehkonen last year) Lehkonen has similar stats and is better defensively than Goodrow so his value will be slightly higher, somewhere around a 1st + 3rd maybe a 1st + 2nd.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:18 p.m.
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    These are comps. Not asking prices. (It says it there in the title). They are intended to give a range of prices that could mimic a market. In other words, these are not the answer to “what do we need to pay” but are more an answer to “what could other teams be paying”. Comps. Like when you buy a house.

    So for instance, if you are the GM of a team in need of a player like Severson, and you want to know what a competitive bid would look like, you’d want your AGM to assemble a list of comps. It doesn’t mean all those teams are bidding. And since players aren’t really sold via auction, there is no market information about bid vs ask prices. So your AGM makes up a list like this. And if it’s accurate, you’d have a rough idea of what type of offers Tom Fitzgerald is receiving from your competition. Some good, some bad.

    Does that make sense?


    The problem is this list is all over the place, you use the housing market as an example. Well in the housing market, houses are compared to others in the neighbourhood with similar number of bedrooms and finishes. They don't compare a 8 bedroom mansion 3 streets over with marble counters and heated indoor pool to a 3 bedroom house with laminate counters and an above ground pool then say that these are the comps for the neighbourhood LMAO!
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:26 p.m.
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    The problem is this list is all over the place, you use the housing market as an example. Well in the housing market, houses are compared to others in the neighbourhood with similar number of bedrooms and finishes. They don't compare a 8 bedroom mansion 3 streets over with marble counters and heated indoor pool to a 3 bedroom house with laminate counters and an above ground pool then say that these are the comps for the neighbourhood LMAO!


    Sure they do. Have you ever bought a home? They will compare a 4000 sq ft home and a 2000 sq ft home when in similar neighborhood, then adjust for size, age of property, etc. You can get a price-per-sq-ft figure, you can get information on bids above/below asking. At the end of the day, no two homes are perfectly alike.

    As for the trade comps, if they all had similar values as returns, that would assume there is one price to pay for a player. As we know there is not.

    If you have comps for Severson to add, I am all ears. I believe these are fair.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    These are comps. Not asking prices. (It says it there in the title). They are intended to give a range of prices that could mimic a market. In other words, these are not the answer to “what do we need to pay” but are more an answer to “what could other teams be paying”. Comps. Like when you buy a house.

    So for instance, if you are the GM of a team in need of a player like Severson, and you want to know what a competitive bid would look like, you’d want your AGM to assemble a list of comps. It doesn’t mean all those teams are bidding. And since players aren’t really sold via auction, there is no market information about bid vs ask prices. So your AGM makes up a list like this. And if it’s accurate, you’d have a rough idea of what type of offers Tom Fitzgerald is receiving from your competition. Some good, some bad.

    Does that make sense?


    Makes sense, I'd say his closest comp in recent years would be Savard then. Look at what Tampa got for him and I think that's where you start with Severson
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:30 p.m.
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    Sure they do. Have you ever bought a home? They will compare a 4000 sq ft home and a 2000 sq ft home when in similar neighborhood, then adjust for size, age of property, etc. You can get a price-per-sq-ft figure, you can get information on bids above/below asking. At the end of the day, no two homes are perfectly alike.

    As for the trade comps, if they all had similar values as returns, that would assume there is one price to pay for a player. As we know there is not.

    If you have comps for Severson to add, I am all ears. I believe these are fair.


    Severson like almost every other good UFA at the deadline before they hit the open market will return a mid to late 1st + B prospect + cap offset (not a dump like Drouin but an overpaid but still good player like Armia)
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    Severson like almost every other good UFA at the deadline before they hit the open market will return a mid to late 1st + B prospect + cap offset (not a dump like Drouin but an overpaid but still good player like Armia)


    A 1st + prospect would be within the range depicted by the comps above.

    Quoting: Subbanator7667
    Makes sense, I'd say his closest comp in recent years would be Savard then. Look at what Tampa got for him and I think that's where you start with Severson


    Yes, the Risto/Savard prices could be lumped in here too (1st plus mid-pick). I’d argue Severson is different caliber of a player than those two, but both were overbought a bit.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Why would NSH trade for another defenseman? And how do they re-sign him even if they did? This deal makes no sense for NSH.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    A 1st + prospect would be within the range depicted by the comps above.



    Yes, the Risto/Savard prices could be lumped in here too (1st plus mid-pick). I’d argue Severson is different caliber of a player than those two, but both were overbought a bit.


    yes but it is a whole lot less than what you have the Habs and Sens paying. You are just trying to cause an argument hence the reason why you made an ACGM with such a wide variety of values. IF you were truly trying to show comps you would have narrowed it down to what his actual value was not this ridiculousness. I am done, have fun with your ridiculousness.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.
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    Why would NSH trade for another defenseman? And how do they re-sign him even if they did? This deal makes no sense for NSH.


    It’s a comp. Not a trade offer.
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.
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    Habs ain't even doing that for 2nd overall pick nemec, lol
    Oct. 12, 2022 at 2:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: Campabee
    IF you were truly trying to show comps you would have narrowed it down to what his actual value was not this ridiculousness. I am done, have fun with your ridiculousness.


    Says the guy who believes Josh Anderson (!) is worth more than Slafkovsky.

    But seriously, the whole point of a “comps” post is to show a wide range of possibilities. Of course, there are going to be bookends. Half these trades I wouldn’t want as Devils fan. But I included them.
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    Oct. 12, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    These are comps. Not offers.


    It's a bad comp. Not realistic imo.
    A better one would be the Manson trade. Helleson + 2nd.
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