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ZUCKER

Created by: Mr_Gardoki
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 14, 2022
Published: Oct. 14, 2022
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ZUCKER IS NOT AVAILABLE

You can all stop the whacky taxed trades to move Zucker.

I'm sticking by everything I've said all year. Zucker is a very good hockey player who's had bad health luck and the Pens are better served by keeping him. No need to pay crazy tax to move him. He's going to have a 20G+ season if he stays healthy-ish.

The POJ trade can be to any team.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:00 a.m.
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I totally agree. They are contenders as long as they dump weak link POJ. I like your team here
Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.
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Ducks will pass, got enough of a logjam of youth at LD.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.
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those won't be the lines... but I completely agree on zucker!!!
Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:25 a.m.
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Good for him
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:25 a.m.
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Zucker about to have a 40 + point season
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
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Damn good penguins team with him.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 11:56 a.m.
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In fairness here, it was Pens fans that were the ones trying to dump him...
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Perdikkas
I totally agree. They are contenders as long as they dump weak link POJ. I like your team here


What did POJ do to you man - you are the weirdest individual ever.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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Bringing up Freidman over Smith?
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:45 p.m.
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Been saying it too. Pens shouldn’t pay to dump him. It was too much of a risk being a contract year he is likely to do well. That’s usually how it works out.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Imagine874859
Zucker about to have a 40 + point season


A healthy Zucker is more than capable of it.

If used correctly. Unfortunately I have no faith in Sullivan to do that.

He needs to be played on Sid's wing if the Pens want to get the most out of him. Think Pouliot. Because he's got zero chemistry with Geno, and Rust does. But instead Sullivan refuses to take Rust off of Sid's wing.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
A healthy Zucker is more than capable of it.

If used correctly. Unfortunately I have no faith in Sullivan to do that.

He needs to be played on Sid's wing if the Pens want to get the most out of him. Think Pouliot. Because he's got zero chemistry with Geno, and Rust does. But instead Sullivan refuses to take Rust off of Sid's wing.


Well Rust is currently on Geno’s wing. Jake and Rakell are with Sid, Zucker and Rust with Geno. I think the issue with Zucker and Geno together is 1. Geno has been coming into the season out of shape (probably due to injuries), and both Zucker and Geno do better if they are the ones carrying the puck into the zone but have different styles of doing it. Geno is more of a East/west player that makes it up as he goes and Zucker is a north/south systematic player. Hopefully both being healthy all offseason and getting work together they find that chemistry.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.
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What did POJ do to you man - you are the weirdest individual ever.[/quote

He sucks


POJ sucks
Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
In fairness here, it was Pens fans that were the ones trying to dump him...


In all fairness that's not true. I've seen countess fans of other teams attaching a 1st for them to take on Zucker.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Ducks will pass, got enough of a logjam of youth at LD.


Yeah, that's fine. I forgot to add any team. I just selected ANA because they're first on the list.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JSEB93
Bringing up Freidman over Smith?


That's just my personal preference. I know Smith would get the call up.
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Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
Well Rust is currently on Geno’s wing. Jake and Rakell are with Sid, Zucker and Rust with Geno. I think the issue with Zucker and Geno together is 1. Geno has been coming into the season out of shape (probably due to injuries), and both Zucker and Geno do better if they are the ones carrying the puck into the zone but have different styles of doing it. Geno is more of a East/west player that makes it up as he goes and Zucker is a north/south systematic player. Hopefully both being healthy all offseason and getting work together they find that chemistry.


I've heard this argument before and honestly, I'm calling BS on it. When Zucker first got here, while he did play with Sid a little, he was mainly with Geno and that line was very productive and effective. They were also the only effective line in the playoffs that year he was traded for. Zucker has just had terrible injury issues which drastically affected his game and obviously Geno has struggled with injuries.

Since the pre-season they've flowed very well together.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.
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those won't be the lines... but I completely agree on zucker!!!


They'll be pretty close to this.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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That's just my personal preference. I know Smith would get the call up.


Gotcha - was just curious
Oct. 14, 2022 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
A healthy Zucker is more than capable of it.

If used correctly. Unfortunately I have no faith in Sullivan to do that.

He needs to be played on Sid's wing if the Pens want to get the most out of him. Think Pouliot. Because he's got zero chemistry with Geno, and Rust does. But instead Sullivan refuses to take Rust off of Sid's wing.


Rust is already off Sid's wing - plus it's Rust and Rakell on the right side. Rust and Zucker aren't competing for the same spot on Sid's line. So not sure what your argument is here.

Everybody needs to be played on Sid's wing if you want to get the most out of a player. And Pouliot the defenseman? How doe she fit in this?
Oct. 14, 2022 at 5:20 p.m.
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If we trade POJ it’s for Smith to play with Rutta not Friedman.
Oct. 14, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
A healthy Zucker is more than capable of it.

If used correctly. Unfortunately I have no faith in Sullivan to do that.

He needs to be played on Sid's wing if the Pens want to get the most out of him. Think Pouliot. Because he's got zero chemistry with Geno, and Rust does. But instead Sullivan refuses to take Rust off of Sid's wing.


Rust didn’t play with Crosby once yesterday 5v5. They want Rakell to play with him and Guentzel. Did you even watch the game?
Oct. 14, 2022 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JSEB93
Rust is already off Sid's wing - plus it's Rust and Rakell on the right side. Rust and Zucker aren't competing for the same spot on Sid's line. So not sure what your argument is here.

Everybody needs to be played on Sid's wing if you want to get the most out of a player. And Pouliot the defenseman? How doe she fit in this?


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Rust didn’t play with Crosby once yesterday 5v5. They want Rakell to play with him and Guentzel. Did you even watch the game?


No I didn't watch it, because I was too busy either watching the Wild get their a$$es handed to them by New York, or just sitting there in the dark twiddling my thumbs because of having a transformer blow down the street that wiped out power in my neighborhood from 8pm CST to 9:50pm CST last night.

So no, I wasn't aware that Rust was off Sid's wing this year. But I'm glad he is, maybe Sullivan finally learned his lesson. But Zucker's best stretch as a Penguin came on Sid's wing not Geno's, and there's a reason for that. Zucker's north/south style of game is far more compatible with Sid than it is with Geno, especially on breakouts and oddman rushes.

And apologies, I meant Dupuis... not Pouliot. Wasn't thinking.

Edit: And for the record. Zucker is fully capable, comfortable, and productive playing his off-hand side on the right. Sullivan could have played him at 1RW next to Sid at any time in the last couple of years instead of Rust or trading for Rakell. But stubbornly chose not to do so. In Minnesota, Zucker was literally split between either playing left or right wing depending on whomever his linemates were any given night. If he played with Parise and Koivu, he played RW. If he was with Koivu and Granlund, he played LW.

Given the fact that Sullivan has refused to ever even use Zucker as a RW and simply deployed him as a LW, it boggles the mind of someone who watched Zucker play his off-hand side and be productive for years that it was something that was never even considered or attempted by the coaching staff.
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Oct. 17, 2022 at 9:41 a.m.
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No I didn't watch it, because I was too busy either watching the Wild get their a$$es handed to them by New York, or just sitting there in the dark twiddling my thumbs because of having a transformer blow down the street that wiped out power in my neighborhood from 8pm CST to 9:50pm CST last night.

So no, I wasn't aware that Rust was off Sid's wing this year. But I'm glad he is, maybe Sullivan finally learned his lesson. But Zucker's best stretch as a Penguin came on Sid's wing not Geno's, and there's a reason for that. Zucker's north/south style of game is far more compatible with Sid than it is with Geno, especially on breakouts and oddman rushes.

And apologies, I meant Dupuis... not Pouliot. Wasn't thinking.

Edit: And for the record. Zucker is fully capable, comfortable, and productive playing his off-hand side on the right. Sullivan could have played him at 1RW next to Sid at any time in the last couple of years instead of Rust or trading for Rakell. But stubbornly chose not to do so. In Minnesota, Zucker was literally split between either playing left or right wing depending on whomever his linemates were any given night. If he played with Parise and Koivu, he played RW. If he was with Koivu and Granlund, he played LW.

Given the fact that Sullivan has refused to ever even use Zucker as a RW and simply deployed him as a LW, it boggles the mind of someone who watched Zucker play his off-hand side and be productive for years that it was something that was never even considered or attempted by the coaching staff.


Lol - those transformers always know to blow at the perfect time. And ah I gotcha - threw me for a loop with that Pouliot haha.

I'm not sure it's as much Sullivan learning a lesson as it is him finally having another right handed winger to replace Rust on that top line. Plus, you're acting the top line played bad with Rust and he shouldn't have been there - that line was incredible with Rust. It's not being stubborn, it's about making the best lines - plus Zucker has been hurt the entire time he's been in a Penguins uniform. It would be weird to break up a line that already has great chemistry to insert Zucker for short periods of time.

My point is almost everybody's best stretch would come with playing with Sid - so that's not really an argument for putting him there. This comes from someone who supported Zucker on the first line this offseason - but ripping Sullivan for not doing it is just a bit strange. Most importantly, if you actually look at Zucker/Malkin vs Zucker/Crosby - the Zucker/Crosby line didn't perform any better than the Zucker/Malkin line. So the narrative that Zucker fits great with Sid and not with Malkin just doesn't hold.
 
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