If a player clears waivers, that means no team wants to commit to 30 days right that moment to that player, which is entirely different from no team willing or interested to committing to that player at all.

Indeed that is not a pretty sign for a player's future, but the distinction is important. In all cases, Habs get a potential NHLer in their system (even though the likelihood of him being a quality player or having a long career are low) in exchange for a ECHLer & without taking a contract towards the 50 limit. You're the one spinning it the way you want :P

That doesn't change the fact that you could have had Beaudin for free 3 weeks ago.

The injury to Norris has nothing to do with it.

And you can't come here and expect everybody to have the same opinion as you.

That doesn't change the fact that you could have had Beaudin for free 3 weeks ago.

The injury to Norris has nothing to do with it.

And you can't come here and expect everybody to have the same opinion as you.

We couldn't have him in Laval for free, that's the big thing. and that extra contract spot is always nice

i'm not expecting anything from you cuz everyone here know you are off on the subject. Mind you business now ...

I'm the only person that doesn't subscribe to the conventional wisdom of a single fanbase.

Unlike you, so I don't expect anything that is "outside the box" from you.

And I'm a user on Capfriendly, so when a trade is announced here, it is my business.

Welcome to reality.

As a 1st round pick from 4 years ago, he should be in the NHL by now.

But he's not because he doesn't have any value.

And contract spots are a dime a dozen if you're only at 45 SPCs.

Even a Rangers fan was alright with the assumption ... !! And only 3 person are thinking that Hawks win the trade ... so take that perspective that you may be really off here.

1. To each his own.



2. Only 3 people think that the Hawks win the trade because the vast majority in this thread and in the vote are Habs fans.

It shouldn't surprise you.



3. If your perspective is that everybody who disagrees with you or the conventional wisdom is wrong, then that's too bad.

I pity you.

Placing a player on waivers is an admission by his team that said player no longer has any trade value to that team.


If nobody claims him, that player's trade value is wiped out.


Determining which team wins a trade is really that simple.


Also, I see that the Habs' fanbase is out in full force today, which probably explains why the vote is lopsided.


And why I'm being bombarded with all these comments

Sorry but you are just plain wrong on this. It has nothing to do with Habs fanbase. It has to do with the CBA.

Getting Beaudin through waivers adds a contract and forces the team to keep him in the NHL.
-vs-
Getting him for an ECHL player in a trade frees up a contract spot and allows to send him straight to Laval without going throught waivers again.

2 facts giving more value for MTL.

The world would be a better place if people told they are wrong wouldn't take it so personnal, like if a secret group had a secret agenda against them....Maybe other people just understand stuff you haven't yet. Learn and move on. No need to fight back with empty accusations. It doesn't make you right.

My BIAS meter just exploded and wake me up, then I understand why by looking at your poor defense. Geez you need to understand a tad more the game. Value are not always vanishing with waiver market. Teams and contracts situation like a logjam can create such dilemma ... You need to look through the nuance ... Oh and also Chicago is imploding this year, so value are no where near their target point.

If getting Beaudin through waivers was bad, then the same can be said about Rem Pitlick.

It added a contract and forced Montreal to keep Pitlick in the NHL.

Why couldn't Montreal just pick up the phone and ask Minnesota if they could have Pitlick for future considerations or something?



Waivers is like the Island of Misfit Toys for NHL players.

Unless they get claimed, they aren't wanted.

That's why it can be argued that players like Cameron Hillis who are waivers exempt have more value than those that don't.

They don't need to be sent to the Island of Misfit Toys to play hockey again.

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about Pitlick?”.

A NHLer is better claimed while an AHLer is better acquired unclaimed. 2 completelly different situations. Sorry, I can't explain it dumber.

Sorry but you are just plain wrong on this. It has nothing to do with Habs fanbase. It has to do with the CBA.

Getting Beaudin through waivers adds a contract and forces the team to keep him in the NHL.
-vs-
Getting him for an ECHL player in a trade frees up a contract spot and allows to send him straight to Laval without going throught waivers again.

2 facts giving more value for MTL.

The world would be a better place if people told they are wrong wouldn't take it so personnal, like if a secret group had a secret agenda against them....Maybe other people just understand stuff you haven't yet. Learn and move on. No need to fight back with empty accusations. It doesn't make you right.

Since when do you make the rules on what examples I can and can not use to prove my point??

The overall point that was made originally is that Chicago won the trade and Montreal lost the trade.

I made that point and used sound logic to prove my point.

If you don't like it and are just as intolerant of dissent as others that have responded to my opinion, too bad.




We're kind of at the point where there's no sense in trying to convince a fanbase, of which you are a part of, that they lost the trade.

It damages their ego and sense of pride for their own team.

Especially when said fanbase dominates the thread and the vote that is attached to it.




Montreal shouldn't have spent a waivers-exempt asset to trade for Beaudin.

Montreal should have spent an asset that already cleared waivers to trade for Beaudin.

One situation is a fair trade while the other one is not.

Sorry, you need to be spoon-fed such basic information.

Calling an ECHLer an asset is the last of your nonsense Im ever gonna read. LOL

Literally blocked him, can't explain something so simple to someone who thinks they know everything.

Sens fans, they've popped up this year and seems most of them don't have a sweet clue. because that's a ****e comment that will get bopped,

Player values actually go up when they clear waivers. We see it every year where a player goes unclaimed then gets traded for a late round pick

Can't explain something so simple to someone who is knee-deep in biased groupthink.

Bye Felicia.

One can only wonder what it must be like to tolerate someone like this in person.

Your semantics and irrational jargon are phenomenal. You should try politics. People might like you better.

Blockbuster

One can only wonder what it must be like to have an opinion and get attacked for it by an entire group of people.

What else can't you tolerate in person?