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Larkin

Created by: mart
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 26, 2022
Published: Oct. 26, 2022
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  1. Hamonic, Travis
  2. Joseph, Mathieu
  3. Norris, Joshua
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
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21$82,500,000$66,944,881$0$4,875,000$15,555,119
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G
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
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$900,000$900,000
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:14 p.m.
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Forgot Raymond too
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:16 p.m.
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Lol this wouldn't be close if Josh norris was healthy
Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:17 p.m.
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Ridiculous doesn't even begin to properly describe this post
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:22 p.m.
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I am at a loss for words on this one.
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:25 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:43 p.m.
laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time
Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:27 p.m.
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A new record for worst trade ever. applaud

This isn't even a good troll post.
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:38 p.m.
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I'm a Sens fan and this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen all day.
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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This trade is even more amazing when you consider the best player coming back from Ottawa, Norris, is now out for the season with a shoulder injury lol
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:00 p.m.
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It’s hard to say if there’s a single player on OTT that’s in the same discussion as Mo Seider TBH.
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
It’s hard to say if there’s a single player on OTT that’s in the same discussion as Mo Seider TBH.


Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids
Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:11 p.m.
Quoting: athrin
Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids


Name names because it’s not Tkachuk, DeBrinkat or Pinto for sure. Norris isn’t making a case from the hospital bed. Batherson isn’t the same tier. Chabot maybe, but doesn’t keep healthy. Stutzle had a good year but is already a stretch to live up to that contract already
Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time


i agree that the trade is bad... but cmon its not as bad as you're making it sound.

Norris = Larkin with an extension. Larkin was slightly better last year but Norris is a decent bit younger and will be making slightly less than Larkin if he gets an extension (i would assume it would be 8x8?)
however everything else is really bad. Zaitsev + 1st = nothing, Hamonic = 5th maybe, Joseph = 2nd. 2 2nds and a 5th doesn't get Seider
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:11 p.m.
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Detroit declines
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh An injured Norris who's more than likely out for the season, 3 worthless scrubs that add 0 value to our team. And a 1st and 2nd round pick for our Captain and high end elite RHD in Seider. Yeah when hell freezes over and Arizona actually becomes relevant.

You'd need to offer us a 1st round pick just for us to take your scrubs off of your hands in Joseph, Hamonic and Zaitsev. Let alone adding 2 more 1st round picks one for both Larkin and Seider.

Larkin with an extension = Norris+Ottawa's 2023 1st round pick+Ottawa's 2024 2nd round pick at the very worst.

Moritz Seider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josepth+Hamonic+Zaitsev. Come dude this isn't worth our time


ROFL larkin is not, remotely close worth a 1st+Norris, who is comparable and will be on a better contract, is 3 years younger.
Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:14 p.m.
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i agree that the trade is bad... but cmon its not as bad as you're making it sound.

Norris = Larkin with an extension. Larkin was slightly better last year but Norris is a decent bit younger and will be making slightly less than Larkin if he gets an extension (i would assume it would be 8x8?)
however everything else is really bad. Zaitsev + 1st = nothing, Hamonic = 5th maybe, Joseph = 2nd. 2 2nds and a 5th doesn't get Seider


Get real Norris by himself doesn't get Larkin with an extension, Now you are grossly overvaluing Norris who has had one decent season so far. And who is out for the season with an shoulder injury.
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Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:19 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
ROFL larkin is not, remotely close worth a 1st+Norris, who is comparable and will be on a better contract, is 3 years younger.


Norris is nowhere comparable to Larkin yet, Maybe down the road. but one 55 point season doesn't make a career, And Norris got his deal coming out of his ELC Larkin could've taken the same deal in Detroit as Norris but took less. Of course Larkin is going to get far more money as his next contract is all UFA years which always cost more.
Oct. 26, 2022 at 8:57 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
Half a dozen easy, maybe more, overvaluing players does not make them Makars or McDavids


Um, what.
Oct. 26, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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bahahahahhahahaha this is good
Oct. 26, 2022 at 9:16 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Get real Norris by himself doesn't get Larkin with an extension, Now you are grossly overvaluing Norris who has had one decent season so far. And who is out for the season with an shoulder injury.


im being very real here, norris has had one decent season so far and we'll see what he can do with another. if an 8x8 extension is fair for larkin then norris is making close to the same, which is quite the fair contract for him, which by that logic should mean they're equal.
before you say it, no this is not implying that Jamie Benn and Adam Fox are equally good, im saying that both larkin (8x8) and norris's (8x7.95) contracts are widely viewed as fair in the moment. benn's is not and fox's is
Oct. 26, 2022 at 9:37 p.m.
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im being very real here, norris has had one decent season so far and we'll see what he can do with another. if an 8x8 extension is fair for larkin then norris is making close to the same, which is quite the fair contract for him, which by that logic should mean they're equal.
before you say it, no this is not implying that Jamie Benn and Adam Fox are equally good, im saying that both larkin (8x8) and norris's (8x7.95) contracts are widely viewed as fair in the moment. benn's is not and fox's is


Larkin isn't taking anywhere near 8x8m he'd already be resigned if that were the case. it's already been reported that the Barzal deal is the minimal Larkin will take from Detroit 8x9.150m probably closer to 8x9.5m , He's looking for $10,000,000+ on the open market per the reports.
Oct. 26, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Larkin isn't taking anywhere near 8x8m he'd already be resigned if that were the case. it's already been reported that the Barzal deal is the minimal Larkin will take from Detroit 8x9.150m probably closer to 8x9.5m , He's looking for $10,000,000+ on the open market per the reports.


where's the reports?
Oct. 26, 2022 at 9:55 p.m.
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where's the reports?


From our insiders, Dave Pagnotta mentioned it Elliotte Friedman. just google Larkin contract and it mentions what he and his agent are seeking. And it sure as hell isn't 8x8 but much higher.
 
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