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Fixing team needs for contending in 2025

Created by: Super_Randy
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 24, 2022
Published: Oct. 26, 2022
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MTL is missing (IMO) 4 pieces from their roster to become cup contenders. However, obtaining those 4 players will be hard.

MTL needs:

Top pair RD
Young playmaker to play RW with Suzuki and Caulfield (Slaf stays on 2nd line with Mesar in the future)
Starting Goalie (1A or better)
To move out older players (Armia/Hoffman) to gain valuable cap space.


Here is how I would try to fix the problem.

1) The very first thing is the 2023 TDL. All Hughes can hope for is to get some assets for Dadanov and Drouin and try and get the most out of Monahan that can be fetched.
2) Have to trade either Edmundson or Matheson at the TDL or by the end of summer of 2023. MTL has 3 rookies on the left side ready for NHL action. Could also trade one of the 3 rookies for some RHD prospect of an equal value.
3) Craft up some kind of exciting trade at the draft (same as the 2022 NHL draft). This team needs some excitement outside of the hockey rink to draw back in and retain more fans. Hughes and Gorton did say they want this team to be talked about with excitement and energy (what better way then another draft floor trade !)
4) Get Monahan back on a 2-3 year contract with a cap hit less then $ 4M.
5) Buyout Hoffman in the summer of 23.
6) Dump Armia in the summer of 23 for however much can be gained, even if it costs up to a 2nd round pick to do so.
7) CAULFIELD EXTENSION NEEDS TO MATCH THE SUZUKI CONTRACT FOR ANY OF THIS TO WORK.


I know the first thing most people will say besides S**T trades is that it'll be hard to keep all the rookies when their ELC contracts run out if they play well. But a lot of money comes off the books after the 2023-2024 season when a bulk of the rookies need extensions. By that time the rookies coming from Laval will push up and be on ELC contracts and the core will take the money coming off the books.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,875,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
2$900,000
6$5,900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
****2023 TDL****

Picks are all from ANA but obviously these trades would be to contenders. Picks are only in trade to give context.
ANA
    ****2023 TDL****

    Drouin @ 50%Retention = late 2nd in 2023 or a late 3rd in 2023 & another 4th in 2024

    Dadanov @ 50%Retention = 4th 2024

    Monahan @ 50%Retention = 1st 2023 (If he has a good season) or 2nd 2023 & 3rd 2024.
    2.
    MTL
    1. Spence, Jordan
    Additional Details:
    ****2023 TDL****

    Spence makes the most sense being in the same age group as the new young core (Suzuki/Caulfield/Guhle/Dach/Slaf) and I believe he would be the cheapest RD prospect to acquire. Also he shares a Japanese heritage just like Suzuki so it would be a nice storyline IMO.
    LAK
    1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
    2. 2024 4th round pick (MTL)
    Additional Details:
    ****2023 TDL****

    Edmundson came back around the beginning of December and played lights out so LAK bring him in for 2 cup runs before Kopitar's contract expires.
    3.
    MTL
    1. Garand, Dylan
    2. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
    3. Schneider, Braden
    4. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
    Additional Details:
    ****2023 NHL draft****

    Gorton calls in a massive owed favor from Drury (LOL).
    NYR
    1. Price, Carey
    2. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
    Additional Details:
    ****2023 NHL draft****

    1st Overall pick

    Price is LTIRetired
    4.
    MTL
      ****Summer 2023 ****

      Any team who will take him for a 2nd or less.
      ARI
      1. Armia, Joel
      2. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
      Additional Details:
      ****Summer 2023****
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2023
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      Logo of the ANA
      Logo of the NYR
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the COL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the PIT
      Logo of the VGK
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      2024
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the ANA
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the EDM
      2025
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the MTL
      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$84,500,000$71,550,000$1,170,000$4,320,000$12,950,000
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $7,875,000$7,875,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $7,875,000$7,875,000
      C
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $5,900,000$5,900,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,362,500$3,362,500
      C, RW
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,450,000$4,450,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,100,000$1,100,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,700,000$1,700,000
      C
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $6,500,000$6,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 4
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $800,000$800,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
      LD/RD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the New York Rangers
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,925,000$1,925,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,875,000$4,875,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $900,000$900,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $762,500$762,500
      RD
      UFA - 1
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $800,000$800,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $766,667$766,667
      RD
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $800,000$800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1

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      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:45 p.m.
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      Is that Bedard? Just confirming. If it is, I do that in a heartbeat.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:46 p.m.
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      No thanks from LA. Edmundson is not worth Spence, even with retention.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:47 p.m.
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      That team isn’t a contender, and that trade to the rangers would be horrible for the habs
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:49 p.m.
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      this rangers trade sets montreal back for years
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:53 p.m.
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      Did Drury kill someone and Gorton covered for him? Easy NO from the Rangers.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      Did Drury kill someone and Gorton covered for him? Easy NO from the Rangers.


      Honestly the defense would be a little rough, but the trade solves the center problem for the next decade. Gives Othmann a place to shine and allows us to lock up Miller. I just made a team with the trade above.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:56 p.m.
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      Edited Oct. 26, 2022 at 11:07 p.m.
      Why? Would Anaheim give up a 1st and 2nd and 4th round pick for Drouin and Dadonov and Monahan at 50% retained, When they're not making the playoffs. And Dadonov already said no to waiving for Anaheim or did you miss that part.

      Okay if those players are being traded to contenders, then why not just trade them to those contending teams and leave Anaheim out of it.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      Did Drury kill someone and Gorton covered for him? Easy NO from the Rangers.


      lmao, that's an unparalleled level of homer
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      Oct. 26, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.
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      Quoting: DarcyTucker
      lmao, that's an unparalleled level of homer


      If I'm a homer and this trade is GOOD for the Rangers, why does the poster say Gorton calls in a massive favor from Drury?
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      Honestly the defense would be a little rough, but the trade solves the center problem for the next decade. Gives Othmann a place to shine and allows us to lock up Miller. I just made a team with the trade above.


      Schneider is 21...Laffy is 21....and Garand is 20, plus their 1st round pick for the 1st overall makes them a better team? Their window for the cup is the next 3 years while Shesterkin is on a steal of a contract, so this hurts them.
      Oct. 26, 2022 at 11:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      Did Drury kill someone and Gorton covered for him? Easy NO from the Rangers.


      We take this all day long
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      Oct. 27, 2022 at 12:03 a.m.
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      Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup
      We take this all day long


      Really? And if Bedard doesn't turn out as expected? Or is that a guarantee? And what about trying to win a Cup while Igor is on a steal of a contract? And why does Gorton NEED a huge favor from Drury per the poster? I completely disagree.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.
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      Are you Pete Chiarelli?
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 5:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      Schneider is 21...Laffy is 21....and Garand is 20, plus their 1st round pick for the 1st overall makes them a better team? Their window for the cup is the next 3 years while Shesterkin is on a steal of a contract, so this hurts them.


      Genuinely think Bedard is that good. Not an poor valuation of Schneider or Laf, but I genuinely think Bedard will be a franchise altering superstar center. And we haven’t had one since Messier. Mika is a number 1 for sure, but not a franchise altering superstar that can put up 90-100 points.
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      Oct. 27, 2022 at 7:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      Genuinely think Bedard is that good. Not an poor valuation of Schneider or Laf, but I genuinely think Bedard will be a franchise altering superstar center. And we haven’t had one since Messier. Mika is a number 1 for sure, but not a franchise altering superstar that can put up 90-100 points.


      He may be....and he may not be. No 17 year old is a sure thing. Look at the numbers Laffy put up in Juniors, better than Crosby, and has he been a superstar yet? What happens if you make that trade and he turns out to be good, but not great? You give up a young future top 4 RD, a young top line winger in Laffy, a young G with lots of potential and a 1st round pick. You also have Mika and Trocheck signed long term, so where does Bedard play the next few seasons, 3C? Meanwhile, you give up all that young talent currently playing while Shesterkin's steal of a contract burns off. Their window to win a cup is NOW and the next two seasons, and Bedard doesn't help with that, it actually hurts it. No thanks.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
      Why? Would Anaheim give up a 1st and 2nd and 4th round pick for Drouin and Dadonov and Monahan at 50% retained, When they're not making the playoffs. And Dadonov already said no to waiving for Anaheim or did you miss that part.

      Okay if those players are being traded to contenders, then why not just trade them to those contending teams and leave Anaheim out of it.


      Because who knows who will be contenders by the deadline. ANA was literally chosen because of alphabetical order under picking teams for trading. The post even says its to ANA but obviously is to contenders. Lots of people on this site will chose a single team to make multiple trades if it's TDL trades or something and they don't know who will be contending.

      You need to relax and smoke some weed pal.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      Genuinely think Bedard is that good. Not an poor valuation of Schneider or Laf, but I genuinely think Bedard will be a franchise altering superstar center. And we haven’t had one since Messier. Mika is a number 1 for sure, but not a franchise altering superstar that can put up 90-100 points.


      If anything I undervalued the 1st overall pick so I am not sure why some people are saying NYR says No and hangs up. Trade literally makes them able to sign key extensions and with Bedard you can trade Trochek for D help.
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      Oct. 27, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      He may be....and he may not be. No 17 year old is a sure thing. Look at the numbers Laffy put up in Juniors, better than Crosby, and has he been a superstar yet? What happens if you make that trade and he turns out to be good, but not great? You give up a young future top 4 RD, a young top line winger in Laffy, a young G with lots of potential and a 1st round pick. You also have Mika and Trocheck signed long term, so where does Bedard play the next few seasons, 3C? Meanwhile, you give up all that young talent currently playing while Shesterkin's steal of a contract burns off. Their window to win a cup is NOW and the next two seasons, and Bedard doesn't help with that, it actually hurts it. No thanks.


      Nothing Laf and Kakko have done suggests they’ll be legitimate top 6 forwards. As much I love the way the play their lack of offense is beyond concerning for guys that were consensus picks. This move opens up cap flexibility to sign Miller long term who is more important to winning in the next couple of years than Laf or Kakko is. Garand doesn’t matter as long as Shesty is our goalie so that’s a moot point. Being objective and not biased the Rangers would be insane to turn down this deal if Bedard or Fantilli were the return.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 9:31 p.m.
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      Quoting: Super_Randy
      If anything I undervalued the 1st overall pick so I am not sure why some people are saying NYR says No and hangs up. Trade literally makes them able to sign key extensions and with Bedard you can trade Trochek for D help.


      That’s what I’m saying.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      Nothing Laf and Kakko have done suggests they’ll be legitimate top 6 forwards. As much I love the way the play their lack of offense is beyond concerning for guys that were consensus picks. This move opens up cap flexibility to sign Miller long term who is more important to winning in the next couple of years than Laf or Kakko is. Garand doesn’t matter as long as Shesty is our goalie so that’s a moot point. Being objective and not biased the Rangers would be insane to turn down this deal if Bedard or Fantilli were the return.


      You talk about consensus picks (Laffy and Kakko) not panning out as hoped offensively, so why would Bedard be a guarantee not to be the same? He is a kid and nothing is guaranteed. All the trade does is hurt the Rangers chances of winning a Cup while Igor is on a steal of a contract for this season and the next two. You effectively waste Igor's best years cap wise to win a cup. No Thanks.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 9:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      You talk about consensus picks (Laffy and Kakko) not panning out as hoped offensively, so why would Bedard be a guarantee not to be the same? He is a kid and nothing is guaranteed. All the trade does is hurt the Rangers chances of winning a Cup while Igor is on a steal of a contract for this season and the next two. You effectively waste Igor's best years cap wise to win a cup. No Thanks.


      At this point I have very little hope that things get much better from here and that’s thanks to Quinn. At this point Bedard will at least have not been ruined by terrible mismanagement. Laf and Kakko are useless to the cup hopes of the team if they don’t start to produce and that’s a fact.
      Oct. 27, 2022 at 10:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
      At this point I have very little hope that things get much better from here and that’s thanks to Quinn. At this point Bedard will at least have not been ruined by terrible mismanagement. Laf and Kakko are useless to the cup hopes of the team if they don’t start to produce and that’s a fact.


      LOL. They are 21 and 22, they have time and its starting to show, especially with Kakko.
      Oct. 28, 2022 at 11:49 a.m.
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      Quoting: delneggs
      LOL. They are 21 and 22, they have time and its starting to show, especially with Kakko.


      I get points aren’t everything, but if your in the top 6 good play needs to also translate to points on the scoreboard.
       
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